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CRV SESSION PROCEDURES REPORT
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WARNING NOTICE:
INTELLIGENCE SOURCES AND METHODS INVOLVED
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CONTROL NUMBER: 8709
NICKNAME:
DATE OF SESSION: 24 Aug 87
TARGET COUNTRY: UR
REFERENCES: None
SESSION NUMBER: 05
DATE OF REPORT: 25 Aug 87
MISSION STATUS: Continuing
TECHNIQUE UTILIZED: CRV
SOURCE IDENTIFIER: 003
(S/NF/SK)
INTERVIEWER TASKING:
Tasking as listed in the
previous sessions conducted with this Source on this project has not
been changed or re-directed. This session was concerned with Phase
II of the tasking package, the description of the characteristics and
configuration of the Soviet prototype/counterpart to the US "Stealth"
bomber.
Other phases of the tasking package were not addressed in
this session.
2.
(S/NF/SK)
SOURCE TASKING:
Source was told this was a
continuation of the last session and that He was to continue to focus
His attention on the unusually configured aircraft that He reported
on in His previous session.
As the session progressed Source was
tasked to locate, "another aircraft which may be similar to this
aircraft but located in another global location".
Source was further
told to view this other aircraft, (#2) and to compare its
Capabilities and configuration to the first aircraft, (#1).
Source
was not provided any other cuing or descriptive data pertaining to
either aircraft prior to this session.
3.
(S/NF/SK)
INCLEMENCIES: There were no unusual
occurrences or
anomalies which may have affected the data provided by the Source
during this session.
4.
(S/NF/SK)
SUMMARY:
Source furnished the attached summary which
was prepared following the session and submitted to the Interviewer
within 24 hours after the session.
The completeness of the
typewritten summary has been compared to the Interviewer's notes and
all omissions, changes, and/or corrections have been verified as
acceptable by the Interviewer.
The information provided in the
summary was found to be complete and did not require further
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modification, clarification or additions by the Interviewer.
Source
did provide some very detailed post-session sketches which are
attached to this report for reference purposes.
5.
(S/NF/SK)
COMMENTS:
Source's data during this session continued
to be the same high quality and of increasing clarity and interest.
Until such time as technical data becomes available to this office
pertaining to Stealth and/or the Soviet prototype, no hard
conclusions can be made concerning the veracity of the information
provided thus far.
Some of the information such as wing
configuration, the use of electric/optic remote servos, flight
characteristics, etc., may offer the analyst the necessary
confirmatory data to base a reasonable analysis of the remaining
data.
Until such time as directed otherwise, however, it is
recommended that this Source be withdrawn from this project, at least
as a temporary measure,
to preclude the distinct possibility of an
AOL Drive, "peacocking" or analytic labelling. In the future this
Source could be called upon again to provide more specific data as
required but for the time being the risk of compromising his future
utilization in this project would seem to be in jeopardy.
agree
1-1
SG1J
GS-13!
DAC
Interviewer
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Project:
8709
Start: 1259
Date:
24 aug 87
Sanctuary :=
Session:
01 05
Target:
Source:
003
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Finish-
Coordinate:
137500 / 112794
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Frontload:
Pane, begin by focusing YOUR concentration on
the high-TECH plane you reported on during the
last session. Il provide you with additional
tasking as we progress.
Notes:
1. No known or stated inclemencias.
2. weather could not be better
3, Interviewer somewhat depressed- (son shipped out
to Europe previous day). No Big deal
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Aircraft 'is flown in isolation -- during off-hours, over
isolated areas, with knowledge of pending flights kept close
hold.
Terrain overflown is somewhat hilly, with gullies and low
vegetation and "chewed-up" ground. Area is reminiscent of some
of the terrain around Boise, and also south-central Nevada.
When
aircraft flies, it's "like" the body or wing conformation is
changed to enhance performance.
There are a minimal amount of
control surfaces; control linkages are non-standard "like" some
sort of electro-optic connection, providing faster and more
precise response. : Purposes of the aircraft are intrusion,
interdiction, penetration.
It's not intended for a high-
intensity combat environment against other aircraft.
It carries
missiles, perhaps exclusively; night may be its preferred
operating time.
Metallurgy involved is rather novel, involving
laminates and metal bonding -- "like" Teflon on a pan.
Provides
high strength, low weight, flexibility.
The design sacrifices
some maneuverability for other advantages:
range, survivability,
stability, low signatures.
The two tails on this aircraft lean
inward.
(Somer)
Aircraft no. 2: // Single tail slopes back, curved and recurved,
with faint horizontal ridges.
Smooth edges curving around.
Wings larger, not as wide; body is "like" a slight hourglass
shape -- thicker, thinner, then thicker again, but gradually.
engines are present, side-by-side. There are "stabilizing"
ridges midwing on the top.
Aircraft is "not as fancy" in design
and construction.
Performs in a "tighter envelope" -- less
forgiving of mishandling, its performance limits are generally
lower, capabilities more limited; not as refined in manufacture,
less attention to detail not directly function-related.
The
Two
concepts of acceleration, interdiction, interception, and
countermeasure seem relevant to no. 2.
It's "like" an "antidote"
of sorts for some thereat or perceived weakness in an overall
defensive capability.
No. 1 is almost "expected" to be sent
abroad or deep into non-national territory to do its work.
could do such things but is out of preference kept closer to
"home'.
No. 2 is more rigid, has more metal content in its
No. 2
manufacture.
It was designed and developed with the same general
intent as was no. 1, but the formula is different, and not as
successful, but easier to make lots of. Signatures are greater,
but still reduced significantly from normal. In some sense it's
as if someone wanted to imitate or make a copy, but didn't have
all the necessary plans or pieces of information.
Intent was
also to "improve on" original design, with the generally mistaken
idea that bigger/faster /more numerous was "better.
The concept
of "signatures" seems to deal with words such as "cross section"
"density", "reflective", "noise", "heat" ,
"turbulence",
"deflecting", and "magnetic".
The idea is to reduce "presence
signature" -- things that make it easier to see or to stop.
No. 1
practically disappears; no. 2 does also but leaves bigger trace.
Aircraft no. 2 is fueled by hose out of the ground on a
concrete apron, apparently outside in the open.
Aircraft no.
1
is refueled inside, form a hose on a spool; hose extends to
outside.
A truck pulls up outside; the person operating the
truck has no idea what he's refueling -- pumps it "right through
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the wall". Aircraft no. 2 isn't as dark as no. 1 -- perhaps even
some silver showing.
Skin coating seems to be primarily on
underbelly and leading edges.
Provides economy and certain
strength improvements at the sacrifice of small amount of
increased signature.
FLIGHT
No. 1 flies low, NOE, terrain following and masking, relatively
more maneuverable, acceptably fast, more airworthy, percent odds
Of accomplishing mission per aircraft is much higher.
No. 2 flies faster, higher, straighter, less
maneuverable-not as successful in low, NOE type travel .
Performance best rendered at higher speeds; makes it less precise
in handling and performance.
Requires more of them to assure
high percentage chance of mission accomplishment. Counter-
productive -- more of them creates larger signature gestalt to be
discovered. No. 2 is conservative in approach to a radical design
which counteracts some of the advantages -- older, known-to-be-
reliable techniques applied to the aircraft blunt the advantages
of newly developed technology. Example: steel cables instead of
electronic links slow reaction time and accuracy of controls;
conventional control surfaces; fuel metering less precise and
controllable; fire control older, not as versatile or precise.
WEAKNESSES
No. 1:
time consuming to produce.
Complex.
More can go wrong.
Some systems barely out of experimental stage, unestablished
track record -- behavior under "field" conditions unknown.
Can't
defend itself very well. Lower top-end speed makes it difficult
to escape a chase aircraft. Erosion of some sort is a hazard.
Limited payload.
No. 2:
insufficiently maneuverable -- can't handle NOE
flying well enough.
Variety of situations it can deal with is
limited.
Significantly shorter range, greater signature; brittle
construction.
Larger than should be, and heavier.
Not as
airworthy.
Speed capability is sometimes a liability, increasing
tell-tale signatures.
Unsophisticated avionics and weapons
systems.
STRENGTHS
No. 1:
Maneuverable.
Can "hide" much more effectively.
Systems
designed redundantly enhance survivability.
Avionics and weapons
control guarantee greater margin of performance, reaction and
success.
Longer range.
Quieter.
Better made, more built-in
capabilities.
Some characteristics and capabilities still
unknown to those outside.
No. 2:
Faster; primary controls and systems have proven
reliability.
£
Many components already in production for other
aircraft and systems and can be used, making it easier and
cheaper to produce aircraft in quantity.
Less skill required to
train and to operate.
Larger payload.
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to watch
54/2 practice it in isolation - off boure, over isolated meas.
Times when used post choce hold . Area is somewhat willy .
Gullege, you vegetation chewed up ground . Nearly woods .
Reminds me of Some areas around Boise .
Se/2 " Like" where flying body a kring conformation is changed
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Se/2 minimal Control Surfaces. Nonstandard control li bakare
Faster & more precise response- "like" electr-optical connectory.
Purpose
Intensions
avoidance
interdiction
penetration
Gi'm not intended for high intensity combat environment
Missiles
Fear
night
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usually goes by itself in with are on the others in italy
separated.
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Speznete of the air.
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metallage und is rather povel. Laminots of metal
banding - " like" Teflon on a four . High strength low
weight. Flexibility.
sesión ganifico manicurarabile
for other advantages-range, savivability, stability, Low
Signatures.
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red
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long
Slopes
Slants
Sharp
Slanting
no.1
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tails,
lean in
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Sere single tail slopes
Nocle
curved + recurved
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INTERVIEWER NOTES.
1. SINGLE TAIL Assembly
2. STABILIZING GROOVES/ RIDGES
3. GENERAL HOUR GLASS SHAPE
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body - " like" bruglas shape- thick , this , they
thick ayan - but gradually
2
Side by- Side
Sula "Stabilizis"
vitate mid-wing top
Jak tigheter envelope. " Not as fancy"
24/2 Tobrande to approding limits in flying condition .
notas get.
Limits are lower , Performance
capabilities are more limited ."
Notas refiler
in nampretore, Less attention to detail not directly
fonction related.
Hudention
interdiction
interception
Countermesure
54/2
"like" an antidote of soves for some threat or percing
beaknes in an reall defensive caporalite ,
No. 1 is almost "expected" to be sent awood or day into
non-national territory to do its work .
No. 2 could do such things but is part of prepareno
bert closer to "home . "
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Www. b but formula is different, + not as successful,
but easier to make lots of. Eusives langer, more power,
less vouge. Signatures greater but still reduced
from normal.
Als
" Live" someone wants to make a copy , but
better, but didn't have all the necessary plan.
wanted to imitate, but didn't have all the pieces - x
to " improve" on original design was to make it bigger
faster/more numerous.
reflective
next
turbulance
deflecting
magneti
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Silk aleft no. 2 is funded by have out of the grand on
cement apron
Acht wit is inside. Hose on spool extends to
outside - tank turde on trailer. It's "life"- person drivits
truck pull up outside , has no Idea what he's facting -
pumps it " right there will #
no. 2 isn't as dark as no. 1 - maybe even some sites
Shaving. Skin coating primarily on underbelly
+ leading edges. Economy & strangers inprovence
Suvitin sugdauround of increased signature.
flight (c)
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no. 1 - Im , NOE, tarain following + maskers irdating,
Wod manewroribes, reasonably fast, more airwarily,
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percent rods of accomplished mission per
aircraft is much higher.
Nr. 2-
faster higher, straighther les mancareaul - not
as Successful
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type
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precisi in handling & Rapon
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of them
assure high percentage chance of missing
cumplisement.
Counter production- money them
creates larger gestalt to discover.
M.2- Conservative in approach to radical design water
contenants some of advantage- older, trom valiable
becliniques applied islant advantages of newly developed
technology.
" Like" - stal cables instead ductions
links show reaction time of controls. conventional
control surfaces. Fond wetering lass precise + controllable.
Five control older, not as versat, he ad precise.
weakness (c )
kg. 1
time consuming to produce. Complex. anne cango wrong.
Some systems alwant experimentar, bekarin under "field"
conditions unknown. Can't defend itself well . Lower
top and speed make it difficult to escape a clase
aire vajA.
Evosina of some sort is a hazard.
payload.
Nr.2 .-
Inofficially mareunable - any handle NOE Flight
well enough. Variety of situations it can deal with 's
limited.
Santa Significantes shorter vouge, guantes
Signature; britt construction. Larger than should
be, + heavier. Not as a irworry. Speed capability
is sometimes a liability by increasing tell-tale
Signatures. Unsophisticated avionics + weapons
systems
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Strengths (C)
no.1
Warewarable. Can " hide" much more effectively ,
Systems designed redundanthentrance savivalieties,
Avions + lupus controle quarantes greater margin of
paformand, reaction + success. Longer vange. Quetas,
Better made more built in capabilities.
Some disastersticas + capabilities still anknow ky
Others.
NO.2
Faster; primary controls of systems established
reliability . May components abreades in production
Can be used. More easily + cheaply produced in
quantity- Les still required to train
voperate larger
payload.
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