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Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA RDP96-00789RQ EU nogada Much todole 0300580001-5 www WWW. /NOFORN - SKEET CHANNELS ONLY PROJECT SUN STREAK (U) CRV SESSION PROCEDURES REPORT no evaluation .. WARNING NOTICE: INTELLIGENCE SOURCES AND METHODS INVOLVED ..... CONTROL NUMBER: 8709 NICKNAME: DATE OF SESSION: 24 Aug 87 TARGET COUNTRY: UR REFERENCES: None SESSION NUMBER: 05 DATE OF REPORT: 25 Aug 87 MISSION STATUS: Continuing TECHNIQUE UTILIZED: CRV SOURCE IDENTIFIER: 003 (S/NF/SK) INTERVIEWER TASKING: Tasking as listed in the previous sessions conducted with this Source on this project has not been changed or re-directed. This session was concerned with Phase II of the tasking package, the description of the characteristics and configuration of the Soviet prototype/counterpart to the US "Stealth" bomber. Other phases of the tasking package were not addressed in this session. 2. (S/NF/SK) SOURCE TASKING: Source was told this was a continuation of the last session and that He was to continue to focus His attention on the unusually configured aircraft that He reported on in His previous session. As the session progressed Source was tasked to locate, "another aircraft which may be similar to this aircraft but located in another global location". Source was further told to view this other aircraft, (#2) and to compare its Capabilities and configuration to the first aircraft, (#1). Source was not provided any other cuing or descriptive data pertaining to either aircraft prior to this session. 3. (S/NF/SK) INCLEMENCIES: There were no unusual occurrences or anomalies which may have affected the data provided by the Source during this session. 4. (S/NF/SK) SUMMARY: Source furnished the attached summary which was prepared following the session and submitted to the Interviewer within 24 hours after the session. The completeness of the typewritten summary has been compared to the Interviewer's notes and all omissions, changes, and/or corrections have been verified as acceptable by the Interviewer. The information provided in the summary was found to be complete and did not require further Approved Release:2000/08/08T CIA-RDP96+00789R000300580001-5
Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00789R000300580001-5 T/NOFORN - SKEET CHANNELS ONLY modification, clarification or additions by the Interviewer. Source did provide some very detailed post-session sketches which are attached to this report for reference purposes. 5. (S/NF/SK) COMMENTS: Source's data during this session continued to be the same high quality and of increasing clarity and interest. Until such time as technical data becomes available to this office pertaining to Stealth and/or the Soviet prototype, no hard conclusions can be made concerning the veracity of the information provided thus far. Some of the information such as wing configuration, the use of electric/optic remote servos, flight characteristics, etc., may offer the analyst the necessary confirmatory data to base a reasonable analysis of the remaining data. Until such time as directed otherwise, however, it is recommended that this Source be withdrawn from this project, at least as a temporary measure, to preclude the distinct possibility of an AOL Drive, "peacocking" or analytic labelling. In the future this Source could be called upon again to provide more specific data as required but for the time being the risk of compromising his future utilization in this project would seem to be in jeopardy. agree 1-1 SG1J GS-13! DAC Interviewer Approved For release 2000/08/08: CIA-RDP96-00789R000300580001-5
Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00789R000300580001-5 SRECT CDARRELS ORLD (When filled in) Page 1 Project: 8709 Start: 1259 Date: 24 aug 87 Sanctuary := Session: 01 05 Target: Source: 003 . Finish- Coordinate: 137500 / 112794 ... Frontload: Pane, begin by focusing YOUR concentration on the high-TECH plane you reported on during the last session. Il provide you with additional tasking as we progress. Notes: 1. No known or stated inclemencias. 2. weather could not be better 3, Interviewer somewhat depressed- (son shipped out to Europe previous day). No Big deal (urlen filled in) Dr :: Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00789R000300580001-5
(us) Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00789R000300580001-5 Aircraft 'is flown in isolation -- during off-hours, over isolated areas, with knowledge of pending flights kept close hold. Terrain overflown is somewhat hilly, with gullies and low vegetation and "chewed-up" ground. Area is reminiscent of some of the terrain around Boise, and also south-central Nevada. When aircraft flies, it's "like" the body or wing conformation is changed to enhance performance. There are a minimal amount of control surfaces; control linkages are non-standard "like" some sort of electro-optic connection, providing faster and more precise response. : Purposes of the aircraft are intrusion, interdiction, penetration. It's not intended for a high- intensity combat environment against other aircraft. It carries missiles, perhaps exclusively; night may be its preferred operating time. Metallurgy involved is rather novel, involving laminates and metal bonding -- "like" Teflon on a pan. Provides high strength, low weight, flexibility. The design sacrifices some maneuverability for other advantages: range, survivability, stability, low signatures. The two tails on this aircraft lean inward. (Somer) Aircraft no. 2: // Single tail slopes back, curved and recurved, with faint horizontal ridges. Smooth edges curving around. Wings larger, not as wide; body is "like" a slight hourglass shape -- thicker, thinner, then thicker again, but gradually. engines are present, side-by-side. There are "stabilizing" ridges midwing on the top. Aircraft is "not as fancy" in design and construction. Performs in a "tighter envelope" -- less forgiving of mishandling, its performance limits are generally lower, capabilities more limited; not as refined in manufacture, less attention to detail not directly function-related. The Two concepts of acceleration, interdiction, interception, and countermeasure seem relevant to no. 2. It's "like" an "antidote" of sorts for some thereat or perceived weakness in an overall defensive capability. No. 1 is almost "expected" to be sent abroad or deep into non-national territory to do its work. could do such things but is out of preference kept closer to "home'. No. 2 is more rigid, has more metal content in its No. 2 manufacture. It was designed and developed with the same general intent as was no. 1, but the formula is different, and not as successful, but easier to make lots of. Signatures are greater, but still reduced significantly from normal. In some sense it's as if someone wanted to imitate or make a copy, but didn't have all the necessary plans or pieces of information. Intent was also to "improve on" original design, with the generally mistaken idea that bigger/faster /more numerous was "better. The concept of "signatures" seems to deal with words such as "cross section" "density", "reflective", "noise", "heat" , "turbulence", "deflecting", and "magnetic". The idea is to reduce "presence signature" -- things that make it easier to see or to stop. No. 1 practically disappears; no. 2 does also but leaves bigger trace. Aircraft no. 2 is fueled by hose out of the ground on a concrete apron, apparently outside in the open. Aircraft no. 1 is refueled inside, form a hose on a spool; hose extends to outside. A truck pulls up outside; the person operating the truck has no idea what he's refueling -- pumps it "right through Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00789R000300580001-5
Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00789R000300580001-5 the wall". Aircraft no. 2 isn't as dark as no. 1 -- perhaps even some silver showing. Skin coating seems to be primarily on underbelly and leading edges. Provides economy and certain strength improvements at the sacrifice of small amount of increased signature. FLIGHT No. 1 flies low, NOE, terrain following and masking, relatively more maneuverable, acceptably fast, more airworthy, percent odds Of accomplishing mission per aircraft is much higher. No. 2 flies faster, higher, straighter, less maneuverable-not as successful in low, NOE type travel . Performance best rendered at higher speeds; makes it less precise in handling and performance. Requires more of them to assure high percentage chance of mission accomplishment. Counter- productive -- more of them creates larger signature gestalt to be discovered. No. 2 is conservative in approach to a radical design which counteracts some of the advantages -- older, known-to-be- reliable techniques applied to the aircraft blunt the advantages of newly developed technology. Example: steel cables instead of electronic links slow reaction time and accuracy of controls; conventional control surfaces; fuel metering less precise and controllable; fire control older, not as versatile or precise. WEAKNESSES No. 1: time consuming to produce. Complex. More can go wrong. Some systems barely out of experimental stage, unestablished track record -- behavior under "field" conditions unknown. Can't defend itself very well. Lower top-end speed makes it difficult to escape a chase aircraft. Erosion of some sort is a hazard. Limited payload. No. 2: insufficiently maneuverable -- can't handle NOE flying well enough. Variety of situations it can deal with is limited. Significantly shorter range, greater signature; brittle construction. Larger than should be, and heavier. Not as airworthy. Speed capability is sometimes a liability, increasing tell-tale signatures. Unsophisticated avionics and weapons systems. STRENGTHS No. 1: Maneuverable. Can "hide" much more effectively. Systems designed redundantly enhance survivability. Avionics and weapons control guarantee greater margin of performance, reaction and success. Longer range. Quieter. Better made, more built-in capabilities. Some characteristics and capabilities still unknown to those outside. No. 2: Faster; primary controls and systems have proven reliability. £ Many components already in production for other aircraft and systems and can be used, making it easier and cheaper to produce aircraft in quantity. Less skill required to train and to operate. Larger payload. Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00789R000300580001-5
Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00789R000300580001-5 Paul 24 Aug 87 Gene 1259 Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00789R000300580001-5
SUL 2 Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00789R000300580001-5 D AS T I - Als 52 canvel hard green 14. blue black white 54/2 when it flies its " like" Smelle it's got a long week "- sticks out more in front Canard A1 BK to watch 54/2 practice it in isolation - off boure, over isolated meas. Times when used post choce hold . Area is somewhat willy . Gullege, you vegetation chewed up ground . Nearly woods . Reminds me of Some areas around Boise . Se/2 " Like" where flying body a kring conformation is changed to Approved For Release, 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00789R000300580001-5 revetwant
3 52 SVI Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00789R000300580001-5 II 1 AIL A/S 1 Se/2 minimal Control Surfaces. Nonstandard control li bakare Faster & more precise response- "like" electr-optical connectory. Purpose Intensions avoidance interdiction penetration Gi'm not intended for high intensity combat environment Missiles Fear night 5-1/2 usually goes by itself in with are on the others in italy separated. 11 Als - " Like" Speznete of the air. 92/2 metallage und is rather povel. Laminots of metal banding - " like" Teflon on a four . High strength low weight. Flexibility. sesión ganifico manicurarabile for other advantages-range, savivability, stability, Low Signatures. Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00789R000300580001-5
SUI 2 Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00789R000300580001-5 4 Als 1 yen red Silva long Slopes Slants Sharp Slanting no.1 5 4/12 - tails, lean in ne. 2 Sere single tail slopes Nocle curved + recurved black vidged Selz somroth edge curing around. Ovings langer, not as an ide 1 Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00789R000300580001-5 52 White
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Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00789R000300580001-5 46 INTERVIEWER NOTES. 1. SINGLE TAIL Assembly 2. STABILIZING GROOVES/ RIDGES 3. GENERAL HOUR GLASS SHAPE . L L - € L - Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00789R000300580001-5 1 8 aug 24
SUI 5 52 Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00789R000300580001-54/2 As 94/2 body - " like" bruglas shape- thick , this , they thick ayan - but gradually 2 Side by- Side Sula "Stabilizis" vitate mid-wing top Jak tigheter envelope. " Not as fancy" 24/2 Tobrande to approding limits in flying condition . notas get. Limits are lower , Performance capabilities are more limited ." Notas refiler in nampretore, Less attention to detail not directly fonction related. Hudention interdiction interception Countermesure 54/2 "like" an antidote of soves for some threat or percing beaknes in an reall defensive caporalite , No. 1 is almost "expected" to be sent awood or day into non-national territory to do its work . No. 2 could do such things but is part of prepareno bert closer to "home . " Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00789R000300580001-5
52 SVI 6 Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00789R000300580001-5A2L AZ EZ T I Als ferre. silicat Metalli Si'ne more rigid, wore metal contant- someintent as Www. b but formula is different, + not as successful, but easier to make lots of. Eusives langer, more power, less vouge. Signatures greater but still reduced from normal. Als " Live" someone wants to make a copy , but better, but didn't have all the necessary plan. wanted to imitate, but didn't have all the pieces - x to " improve" on original design was to make it bigger faster/more numerous. reflective next turbulance deflecting magneti - Sels idea is to reduce "presence signatures" things that make Approved For Release 2660/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00789R0003005 stop No. 1 practically dizer dias disappears - Mr. 2 dos alt 5809945 leaves himen france
7 52 SUI Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00789R000300580001-5 12 EZ T I for ALL BK image of So. Nevada Karriere Sund windy Silk aleft no. 2 is funded by have out of the grand on cement apron Acht wit is inside. Hose on spool extends to outside - tank turde on trailer. It's "life"- person drivits truck pull up outside , has no Idea what he's facting - pumps it " right there will # no. 2 isn't as dark as no. 1 - maybe even some sites Shaving. Skin coating primarily on underbelly + leading edges. Economy & strangers inprovence Suvitin sugdauround of increased signature. flight (c) . no. 1 - Im , NOE, tarain following + maskers irdating, Wod manewroribes, reasonably fast, more airwarily, - percent rods of accomplished mission per aircraft is much higher. Nr. 2- faster higher, straighther les mancareaul - not as Successful Tu NOE type troud . Performance Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP960078980003005800011585 vest rendered at higher spee precisi in handling & Rapon Require more
SUZ 8 52 1 Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00789R000300580001-5 AS of them assure high percentage chance of missing cumplisement. Counter production- money them creates larger gestalt to discover. M.2- Conservative in approach to radical design water contenants some of advantage- older, trom valiable becliniques applied islant advantages of newly developed technology. " Like" - stal cables instead ductions links show reaction time of controls. conventional control surfaces. Fond wetering lass precise + controllable. Five control older, not as versat, he ad precise. weakness (c ) kg. 1 time consuming to produce. Complex. anne cango wrong. Some systems alwant experimentar, bekarin under "field" conditions unknown. Can't defend itself well . Lower top and speed make it difficult to escape a clase aire vajA. Evosina of some sort is a hazard. payload. Nr.2 .- Inofficially mareunable - any handle NOE Flight well enough. Variety of situations it can deal with 's limited. Santa Significantes shorter vouge, guantes Signature; britt construction. Larger than should be, + heavier. Not as a irworry. Speed capability is sometimes a liability by increasing tell-tale Signatures. Unsophisticated avionics + weapons systems Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00789R000300580001-5
SVI 9 52 Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00789R000300580001-5 P A1 F1 AZ Als Strengths (C) no.1 Warewarable. Can " hide" much more effectively , Systems designed redundanthentrance savivalieties, Avions + lupus controle quarantes greater margin of paformand, reaction + success. Longer vange. Quetas, Better made more built in capabilities. Some disastersticas + capabilities still anknow ky Others. NO.2 Faster; primary controls of systems established reliability . May components abreades in production Can be used. More easily + cheaply produced in quantity- Les still required to train voperate larger payload. 1409 Approved For Release 2000/08/08 : CIA-RDP96-00789R000300580001-5