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27 February 1985
MEMORANDUM FOR RECORD
SUBJECT:
Meeting with DIA General Counsel
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1. (S/NOFORN/WNINTEL)
On
26 February 1985, LTC Buzby and
of
Project CENTER LANE met
with the following
personnel in the office of the DIA General Counsel:
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,
Office of the General Counsel
Office of the General Counsel
GDIP Staff
DT5A
The purpose of the meeting was to discuss the requirement for
Deputy Secretary of Defense or Secretary of Defense approval of
DIA participation in Human Use activities.
2.
(S/NOFORN/WNINTEL)
LTC Buzby briefly outlined the decisions
since 1979, pointing out that the human use issue has always
been at the Department of the Army level, rather that at INSCOM
level, as the question had been raised by ACSI.
The issue
evolved from a medical issue to a legal issue.
LTC Buzby
explained that he had attempted to get the human use issue to
the INSCOM level and away from DA when INSCOM established its
own Human Use Review Board.
While all members of the board were
briefed on Project CENTER
LANE,
it never
got
to
the
decision-making point because of the decision to transfer CL to
DIA.
The latest Human Use approval by the Secretary of the Army
was obtained in September 1983, and was considered to be valid
until the project was attached/transferred to DIA.
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3.
(U)
said that DIA will not set up
decisions of the DA General Counsel.
continued by
saying that the Deputy Secretary for Defense will
probably cite
past DA decisions and will approve DIA participation. He said
that the DIA request for approval should parallel the DA reasons
for the request without going into great detail.
He said to
include the background of the 1981 Deputy Secretary of Defense
approval for DIA to participate in Project GRILL FLAME citing
that the DoD General Counsel accepted the DA General Counsel's
opinion on the human use issue.
it's
own
Human Use Review Board,
and will abide by past
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ARMY review(s) completed.
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SUBJECT:
Meeting with DIA General Counsel
SG1J
4.
(S/NOFORN/WNINTEL)
asked LTC Buzby why he
considered Project CENTER LANE an
operational activity. LTC
Buzby explained that the Project
was not involved with
researching and developing techniques and protocol, but was
taking
those techniques
developed by a
contractor
and
transferring the technology that had been developed in order to
collect intelligence.
The contractor was an R&D activity while
developing techniques and were subject to the human use controls
of the contractor and DoD. LTC Buzby,
then explained that the DIA effort will be a balance of
collection and research and development.
The collection unit
will be called a prototype unit as DIA will be validating the
capability to use the techniques for collecting intelligence.
It was
stated that DIA actually has a three-part role:
collection operations, research and development, and threat
analysis.
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SG1J
5.
(U)
asked that a draft request to the Deputy
Secretary
of Defense be prepared in the next couple of days.
LTC Buzby said he would prepare the draft.
will
SG1J
coordinate the draft through the DoD General
Counsel before
taking it to the Deputy Secretary of Defense.
A question arose
as to who would sign the request, with LTC Buzby saying he
thought it should be LTG Williams as Director, DIA.
said that perhaps Mr. Hurwitz should sign the request as the
Project will be an NFIP capability and Mr. Hurwitz is the GDIP
Program Manager. It was then brought out by
SG1J
SG1J
that LTG Williams could also sign as the GDIP Program
Manager.
said the would talk to Mr. Hurwitz about
who should sign the request and stated that he feels a signature
by the GDIP Program Manager would carry more leverage with the
Deputy Secretary of Defense than would the signature of the
Director, DIA.
SG1J
SG1J
6.
(S/NOFORN/WNINTEL)
It was noted that several people in the
office of the DoD General Counsel in 1981, at the time of the
original approval for DIA participation in Project GRILL FLAME,
are still in that office and will remember the first approval.
7.
(U)
will arrange a pre-briefing for the DoD
General
Counsel.
SG1J
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