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SESSION REPORT
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REVIEW ON: 17 JAN 2000
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SUMMARY ANALYSIS
REMOTE VIEWING ( RV) SESSION
CC58
1. (S) This report documents a Remote Viewing (RV) session
conducted in compliance with a request from SOD, J3, OJCS,
Pentagon, Washington, D.C. The purpose of the session was
to provide information relevant to the hostage situation in
the U. S. Embassy compound in Teheran, Iran.
2. (S) The remote viewer's impressions of the target are
provided as raw intelligence data and as such have not been
subjected to any intermediate analysis, evaluation or collation.
Interpretation and use of the information provided is the
responsibility of the requestor.
3. (S) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the
document, Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing
Protocol (S), undated.
4. (S) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions
during the remote viewing session.
At TAB A are drawings made
by the remote viewer reference his impressions of the target
site. At TAB B is target cueing information provided the
remote viewer.
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CC58
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#66
This will be a remote viewing session (edited
for seucrity).
PAUSE
For the past few minutes now, you have been
looking at a photograph of Alan GOLACINSKI.
Focus your attention now on Alan. Focus your
attention on him. Relax and concentrate.
PAUSE
Focus your attention now on Alan, on his location.
Focus your attention.
Relax and concentrate, and
describe his location to me.
PAUSE
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#07
I'm having a little trouble with the imagery. I'm
seeing clear s-s-s walls like the inside of the cave.
Just rocks and vertical rough texture like. . uh ..
stone ... but I don't see anybody there.
#66
Ok. Relax and concentrate for a minute. We have
plenty of time. Fix your attention, image in your
mind of Alan's face. Fix your attention on Alan.
Relax and concentrate and locate Alan. Focus your
attention clearly on his location. I will wait.
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#07
I don't like this.
Something wrong. Something is
wrong. I see a ravine ... a ravine type area. I saw
... I don't know. I don't know if it's symbolic, or
what. I saw two head stones. Blue ... a blue jar
sitting on the ground ... ravine. I am looking all
over for Alan (mumbling). I'm going to look again
#66
Just relax and concentrate for a moment. Just
relax and concentrate.
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#66
Ask yourself the question, "Where is Alan?"
Ask yourself the question, "Where is Alan?"
PAUSE
#07
I can't get (mumbling) being (mumbling) ......
There's a building nearby. I have been trying to
see in it and I can't.
I still don't see Alan.
I see the jar again.
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PAUSE
I see alot of imagery but I don't see him. I was
just looking over a fence into a .. into a lot, for
some reason is important .. uh .. I don't see anybody.
PAUSE
Nope. I don't see ..... wait a minute
PAUSE
I got somebody, in a room with high (mumbling)
The guy's in seating position with blanket pulled
up over his head .... wrapped around him. It's very
cold. It's a very bare, austere room. Uh ... he's
sitting, sitting ... legs drawn up under him with the
blankets pulled around him. He doesn't appear to
have a mustache.
#66
do you feel this person is Alan?
#07
I'm (mumbling) try to get a good look at his face.
I felt it was.
Very thick walls, and dark window-
frame. Just plain cement, smooth high ceiling.
Very bare. Cot like thing in the room, and. . . huh ..
you ain't going to believe this ... but so help me
I see ... I see wash pan like thing with a picture
ah ... big bowl with a picture on a table. I don't
know if this is Alan or not. The only feature I
see look like him but there's no mustache.
I
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think he ... I think he's exhausted, or something,
cold ... and alone ... not getting alot of sleep. He's
about half in a stuper ... he's not awake and he's
not in a deep sleep either. He's sitting.
I have
a feeling this room is above ground floor.
I'm
going to try to look out the window and all I see
is blowing snow.
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#07
This person is a very ... is a very depressed, extremely
depressed state of mind. I feel the cold he is feeling
is ... is his state of mind. It's not that cold in
here. He ... he, he is getting up. If they don't
leave him with people he can talk to he's going to go
off the deep end. He, he's all huddled up. He's
trying to withdraw.
PAUSE
Ok. It's ok. It's him. It's him.
#66
Tell me what you've just perceived.
#07
I woke him up.
He looked at me. Smiled. I tried
to tell him it was ok. It's going to be all right.
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He's got a blanket around his head.
#66
Does he know where he is?
#07
I don't know. He's veny confused. Doesn't even
know what day it is. (Mumbling) he's awake.
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He doesn't know. He doesn't know if there's any
..... he doesn't know if there's anyone else in here
or not. He almost (mumbling) off a (mumbling). I
don't know how ... it's been some time since he
saw friends. Ok. (Mumbling) ... stomach
hurts.
That's why. . . that's part of why he's sitting up.
Does he know why he has been brought here?
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#66
#07
I'm going to ask him. If he didn't know where he
was I figured he ... I never even thought. I'll see.
He assumes everybody, everybody is separated.
I
keep seeing ... there's a little .... a little case,
box a foot long associated with Alan.
I don't
know why I said that. He worries too much. He's
getting awfully depressed. Stubborn son-of-a-gun.
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He's been s-s-sr
He's been hallucinating
quite a bit.His stomach hurts something fierce.
And the left shoulder ... ah .. I'll be dammed.
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(Mumbling) .... I'm talking to him but I don't
know how I did it. He didn't say anything.
I knew what he meant.
#66
Tell me about your conversation.
#07
I was ... because of the state he's in I had to be
careful what I said to him ... while I was formulating
my question I was suddenly aware of his answer.
I didn't notice that at first.
#66
Very good. Tell me about it.
#07
It's just I was so intent on it trying to help the
poor bastard ... just didn't know ... he started to
say something and someone finished his sentence
for him. Give you the answer the same time by
doing so. Like he ... like he knew what I was going
to say but ...
#66
Describe the contents of these thoughts.
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#07
(Mumbling) compassionate understanding of (mumbling)
party, I think. He's. .. he appreciate my concern
and .. uh .. as he did this he acted like he felt better,
looked up, pulled the cover off his head and smiled.
I don't understand it. I feel ... I feel terribly heavy.
Like I must weigh 100 tons. Like I was ... Like I was
big and heavy. . uh .. I can hardly breath (mumbling) ...
wait.
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#66
That's fine. You're doing very good.
Don't focus
on your physical feelings. Focus on Alan's location.
Focus your awareness and your attention not on your
physical.
#07
(Mumbling) all over.
. just had trouble breathing.
PAUSE
Must be imagining things, but, I saw a wire going
to a little microphone. It's hidden in the room.
I don't know why. I don't know whether Alan talks
to himself or whether someone's been in there talking
to him.
Some reason they're awfully rough on this
guy .
#66
Relax and concentrate now.
Relax and concentrate
focusing your attention on Alan. Relax and
concentrate for a moment while I turn the tape over.
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#66
Tell me more about the room where Alan's located.
#07
It's rather narrow. The part I see is narrow and
long and thick walls. Window up there is. . uh ..
you know ... it's ... it's way up ... I (mumbling) up
there ... usually have a (mumbling) hole there big,
thick wall with windows in them towards the outside
(mumbling) ... cold ... I guess painted cement walls /
(mumbling) light, dirty color. It was never ... /
a (mumbling) room .... it's just. .. . (mumbling) simplicity.
and some distance off the ground.
#66
Ok. You feel this room is located up from ground
level?
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#07
Yeah. It's .. uh .. several feet off the ground and
you'd break your neck if you jumped. I didn't tell
you but, I looked for .... since Alan was so completely
alone, I ... I figured they must have it set up so
they can take care of himself, but .. uh. . I couldn't
find a bathroom.
I went out in the hall and. . looked
down the hall for a bathroom and I couldn't, couldn't
find one. I felt he had been in this room for a
long time, but, he ... I don't think he leaves the room.
I don't see a bathroom.
#66
Ok. Search the immediate area for people.
PAUSE
#07
There's someone in the room above him and there's
someone standing in a space outside his door.
A non-discript dress, just .... be a man off the street.
I think there's someone .... someone in the room down
the hall (mumbling) would be on my left. This person
is ... appears to be asleep. Looks like little more
furniture in this room and. . uh .. looks like ... like
playing cards on a real small table. He's an
older person. Kind of slim. I .. as compared to
short and stocky ... kind of tall, tall and slim.
#66
Tell me more now about the building these rooms are
located.
#07
I knew you was going to ask that. Trying to see it.
I've been trying to see it. I don't know. I have
an awareness but I'can't see it. The building
appears narrow and long and looks (mumbling) quite,
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I think what I'm seeing
(mumbling) kind of match
(mumbling) open grass and
trees and I just had a feeling, but, I don't see
anything to prove it, but I had a feeling that ....
an awareness of being inside ... inside the fence.
Ok. I'm outside looking at it.
It is a long
building, plain. I think ... looks like flat roof .
I'll be dammed!
I don't see any snow. I see. . uh ..
off-white buildings, vegetation. I see a fence
over there but I don't know if it's a compound or
not. See vegetation, open spaces, long building and
a fence. I think I just invented the compound.
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Just saw some ..... had a stand-off insulator. I think
it stood off in the building. I guess 4-8 inches.
Made (mumbling). There seems to be ... seem to be
an extension out from the wall near the top of the
building .... like it had (mumbling) ... there's wire
in there ... it's ... just looking at something so I
can recognize this building.
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I just ... just got a glimpse of a little cube like
structure.
Could be (mumbling) in one room size
nearby. I saw it (mumbling) off the corner.
It's
wide as it is tall. I don't understand it.
I could
see snow out the window. I go outside and it's not
snowing.
#66
Is there anything on the inside of the building that
would help us to determine what building this is?
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#07
I couldn't even find the doors. I was in there
without them
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. I started getting just as
confused as he was. Had trouble breaking out of
it. Kind of frightening. I'll go look.
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This dark passageway is ..... GOD DAM!
(Mumbling)
papers scattered around. Just looking down the
(mumbling) must have been paper down the other end
of the hall. Typewriter size paper.
Like somebody
had taken every file drawer out and dumped it upside
down in the middle of the room.
File ca ..... I didn't
a file cabinet You know .... . it was like paper filed.
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.being dumped in the other room ..... I qualify
that because you might start looking for a room full
of safes. It's funny. When I went outside his
room this time that person wasn't standing out there.
They walk by once in a while and check on him. I
think they are kind of concerned about. They don't
want anything to happen to him. I don't know why
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but I get the feeling that he's intermittently
going on a .... like a hunger strike ..... he's not
.... he's not eating all his meals.
I think ...
I think he must have an ulcer ... 'cause he's
sure got a hell of a stomach pain.
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Search lights ..... uh .... spot lights on top of that
building over there .... just came on. ... that's funny.
I saw search lights (mumbling) but this is ... this is
outside on the roof. I didn't see 'em first, but
there's five or six people over there, near that light.
I see fox hole but ..... that's impossible.
#66
#07
What's your perception?
.might be putting energy together. Thought I
four - six guys in a pit like a shell crater
but I was distinctly aware that they up high near
the search lights. I don't know.
#66
I want you, now, to reidentify with Alan. Locate
Alan again. Reidentify with Alan.
#07
I hate (mumbling) .... Ok.
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#66
Communicate to Alan that he has an opportunity to
provide us with information. Is there anything
that he would like to communicate?
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#07
I don't believe this but I'm going to dump it.
Apparently, he's aware that they. . uh .. taped alot of
things that he said. He's ..... don't believe anything
that is taped. Trust me. Don't believe anything
on tape. He feels there are several tapes ... over
a dozen .... please, please, don't believe it You say
what you. .. he says. . . he says he's saying what you
have to keep going ... says you do what you got to do ..
Ok. He says .. was terribly confusing not know .... just
not know ..... not knowing. He has no advise.
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There's something about .... he's trying to tell me
something about a square tube ... shapes .... something
like a question mark. First, I thought ... first I
thought a square metal tube .... four, five feet
across. I thought somebody might crawl in ... but,
then it got smaller.
It was .... maybe be an answer
'cross .... but he felt .... he felt it could be used
to help. I told him he might possibly have a chance
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end all this if he would just stop being
depressed and tell me ... tell me what I could do.
He feels no one can help without losing all their
lives and ..... I think he's just (mumbling) today.
#66
Is there a personal message he would like to leave?
PAUSE
#07
I don't understand. But, the message is for his
mother. He said remember the feather. Remember
the feathers.
More than one.
I don't understand.
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Uh .. look .. he sa. . he said GOD. . he said so many
hours ... figure it out ... he said nothing else.
He wants everybody ... know that he understands.
Understand ... I don't know ... understand whatever
happens.
Yes.
Whatever happens. He's tired,
tired, tired.
But, he understands it ... it's
checkmate
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checkmate.
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I can't convince him.
Said he thought alot more
about it than I have.
He understands it better.
I think he's just going to give up. He won't
listen. He just becoming passive. He won't argue
any more. He says he just quit arguing. He said
have it your own way. Your guess is as good as
mine. He just quit.
#66
All right. Tell Alan that you have to leave now.
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#07
I told him to look for me. I'd try to find him
again. Just to give him something to do.
#66
It's time now to leave Alan, come back here and to
draw the impressions that you have for me. Leave
Alan, tell him that we are trying to help him, and
come back here now and draw the impressions that you
have, for me.
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#66
How do you feel?
#07
... got to knock this stuff off man.
I don't think there's much to draw. Is there?
#66
Ah. You can draw his room and your perception
of the outside of the building.
#07
Oh, yeah.
I did see the outside. I forgot
that.
Very basic room .... a very tall window ... way up
off of the floor . I want to try and get the
perspective of this room ..... do it with regular pencil.
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#66
What. number pencil have you got?
#07
I've got a number 3.
#66
Ok. If you try a number 2 or number 1 it would
probably draw darker. You're going to go over it?
#07
I'm going to go over it. The walls appeared very
thick to me. I got carried away by the size over
here. (mumbling) Remember the walls are very thick
in the cell, inside, sloped downward, as though
maybe ... sloped down so sunlight maybe get down
somewhere close to the floor rather than being
blocked by a'cill. It was that thick and it was
horizontal. It appeared to be cement, stucco, or
something like that. Uh .. at one point I saw part
of the bed that made it look like a. . some kind of
small cot like thing and .. uh. . I can't draw it .. but
he was sitting right here on the edge of the bed
with legs up under him ... bent over ... blankets up
over him ... don't know whether I can do it or not.
This is ... this is a blanket all pulled over him and
it's pulled up over his head when I first saw him.
Later on he moved back against the wall here on the
bed ... kind of stretched out a little bit more.
Any labels I need to put on that?
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#66
No.
I don't think so. Are you darkening it?
Page 1. Darkening that a little bit? Is there any
other furniture in this room?
#07
I was aware of a very small stand or something
somewhere in there, and I felt it was down .... down
along here somewhere. The one down the hall appeared
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#66
You said before that there appeared to be something
on this stand.
#07
No. No.
That was the other room. I think it was
a deck of cards. I think you're talking about ...
I was aware of a box like thing about a foot long
or a chest or something that .. uh .. was related to him
in someway. I couldn't figure out how. Is that
what we are talking about?
#66
A big bowl with a picture. Is this the table where
you said was a bowl and a picture?
#07
Yeah. I saw that in one of the rooms. I thought
it was down in the other guys room.
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#66
I believe the only thing you mentioned that was
in the other room was a deck of cards. I thought
it was in this room that you talked about it ...
on the table was a big bowl with a picture on
it.
#07
A ceramic type bowl with a picture but I don't know
which room it was in. I really don't know whether
to draw it in or not because I don't know which room
it was in.
#66
Ok. It's ok. It's not that relevant.
#07
Hum ..... walls that thick that couldn't have been
where I thought it was. Oh, yeah.
There was an
overhang over here.
#66
Ok. See you're drawing building ... drawing in some
windows ... an X in one of the windows.
#07
Yes. I thought he was in that X somewhere. Quite alot
of vegetation around ... and this fence here ... this
vegetation around is what made me think it probably
was inside a compound. I realized how thick these
walls were ... I just can't believe that .. . that .. . well ..
I just don't think we would have walls that thick.
Long simple building. Oh, I thought ... I thought there
was wires (mumbling) and I was aware that there was
wires layed inside this socket ... under here. Think
that's about it.
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Ok. We have inside the room that you've
perceived and we have the picture of the outside
of the building. How about a hallway drawing?
What it looked like when you stood in the hallway.
#07
It was just rather ..... rather plain and I tried
to see if there was any window .... I
remember
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tried to see if there was any window or door on
the wall opposite. I couldn't find any. Uh ..
I thought when I went on down the hall that there
was other doors. I didn't think there was anyone
in any ... rooms next to him but on down thehall I
found someone, and, it just. . you know, it's just
cubic ... no detail. Uh .. I guess ... now I don't know
that there was anything beyond this wall. I could
only draw what I saw from the inside. I mean the
place may be much larger, but, I don't know. But ..
uh .. I felt the hall like thing was quite wide but,
as though the rooms might have been. . uh. . like that
with doors in them. I assumed the windows I saw
were the windows for each one and he was right along
in here, and the tall one must have been, I don't
know, down in the end somewhere. But, this wall here
was rather plain Had I seen a door in it I'd have
know there was rooms beyond it. Had I seen a window
I'd know that was the other wall. I don't know
either. Thought there was a fence here. Shrubs and
some trees back through here and I saw tree or two
over here.
Guess that's about it.
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TARGET CUING INFORMATION
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CC58
1. (S) The viewer has been exposed to open source news media
information, classified overhead imagery and photographs of many
of the hostage personnel. He knew he would be working against the
hostage situation in Iran.
2. (S) At the time of the session, the viewer was told that he
would be trying to locate Alan B. GOLACINSKI. The viewer was shown
the attached photograph and was asked to locate and describe the
surroundings of the individual in the photo.
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