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SUMMARY ANALYSIS
REMOTE VIEWING ( RV) SESSION
1.
(S)
This report documents a Remote Viewing ( RV) session
conducted in compliance with a request from SOD, J3, OJCS,
Pentagon, Washington, D.C. The purpose of the session was
to provide information relevant to the hostage situation in
the U.S. Embassy compound in Teheran, Iran.
2.
(S)
The remote viewer's impressions of the target are
provided as raw intelligence data and as such have not been
subjected to any intermediate analysis, evaluation or collation.
Interpretation and use of the information provided is the
responsibility of the requestor.
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3.
(S) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the
document, Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing
Protocol (S), undated.
4.
(S) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions
during the remote viewing session.
At TAB A are drawings made
by the remote viewer reference his impressions of the target
site.
At TAB B is target cueing information provided the
remote viewer.
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CC55
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#66
This will be a remote viewing (RV) session
(edited for security).
PAUSE
For the past few minutes now, you've been
studying a photograph of an area. Focus your
attention now on the building designated as building
I. Relax and concentrate. Focus your attention and
describe the target to me.
PAUSE
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#31
Got a ...
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#31
Got a feeling of a wall with ... windows .. s ... long
wall ... back where I started is ... vall makes. . uh ..
had piece cut out of it.
Little bit of overhang.
#66
Are you outside or on the inside?
#31
I'm outside.
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On the far side of the photo, I .. uh .. somewhere on
.. on the side of the .. some sort of a. . uh. . looking
at it on the left end. . uh. . some sort of a large
indentation in the face of the building like a covered
entrance walk-in.
A
big abutment on the left side
of it.
#66
Look down the wall and describe it to me.
#31
The vall?
#66
Tell me about it.
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#31
On the right it has. . uh. . looking back that way, it
has only slight overhang, no. . uh. . embelishment other
than windows. But, up there near this entrance
hallway, or something, I get vertical feelings like
.. uh .. there's some sort of an entrance, or porch ..
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uh .. with just some 4x4 posts that are there for
looks. To hold up the roof. They don't really
hold up the roof. (Mumbling) for a porch but the
that really makes porch is that the main walls of
the building pulls back in and under the roof. On
the left side is large stone. . uh. . or cement wall
with no embelishment. On the right side as well.
You step in ... what I want to say ... you make a right.
You go in this thing about 4 paces.
#66
Before you go into the building, now, stand in this
entrance way and look out away from the building and
describe that area to me.
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#31
What I'm doing now (pause) I see .. uh .. straight
ahead, I have only .. uh .. an open area with a. . uh ..
few large trees in it. They're .. uh .. the right side
of the trees appears to be something flat on the
ground.
#66
Move to it and describe it to me.
#31
It's. . uh. . gravel. . uh. . walkway of some kind or. . uh ..
I want to say is. . uh. . gravel walkway, or roadway
#66
Move back.
#31
Where is it?
#66
Move back to the entrance way now so that you can
see it in its proper perspective.
PAUSE
#31
It's out there but it. . uh. . more of a walk I think.
It doesn't appear so big now.
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#66
All right. Fine. Now, standing there in the
entrance way before we move in through the building ..
before we do this stand in the entrance way and look
around the area outside for personnel ... outside the
area. Take a look around on this side of the building
for personnel standing in the entrance. Take a look.
#31
There is .. uh .. to the far left I keep being attracted
to .. uh .. a vall on the far left which has. . uh. . looks
as though it has. . uh. . bushes and things along the side
of it, but, it's back beyond where I started. But,
I want to say that there is. . uh .. a little curb or
something along the base of that wall, and that .. uh ..
there is a. . uh .. person squatting on this curb ..
sitting on this curb not quite with his back against
this wall .... but ..... the more I look at the more it
looks like a little terrace .... than a curb ... uh ..
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This place is. . uh .. 40 feet out from the .. from the
building from where I started along the wall, there.
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#66
All right. Move to this new place momentarily and
examine closely this individual. Describe his dress
to me.
#31
He has .. uh .. a brown .. uh .. sweater thing on ... One of
those really .. uh .. big. . uh. . turtle neck collars.
He has sneakers on. Some sort of dark trousers which
are long. . uh .. long in the heels and drag.
#66
What is his purpose for being in this location?
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₩31
He is a sentinal or guard. He's .. uh .. goofing off.
#66
What is the input that makes you say that?
#31
He's .. uh .. watchful for his own sake.
#66
Is he armed?
#31
I think he is. He's .. uh .. weapon is uh ... I keep
getting him now like a half reclining leaning back
with his weapon laying on its side and under his
right elbow.
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#66
Describe the weapon to me.
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#31
Uh. . I can't get a feeling for wood on this thing. . uh ..
it appears shorter than others have been .all plexi-
glass .. uh .. fiber glass .. black .. uh .. I'm getting a. . uh ..
strong feeling it's a. . uh .. a 16 or . ch .. AR 15 .. no
a 16 because I. . uh. . feeling it's shorter than those
FALs and. . uh .. has a triangular forward .. uh .. barrel
grip guard combination ..
#66
All right. Very good. Move back to the entrance way
now. Move back to the entrance way, face the building
and look into the building and describe this scene as
you look into the entrance way.
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#31
I lost my focus for a minute. Just a minute. I'm
trying to get back where I was.
#66
That's fine.
Relax and concentrate.
We'll wait.
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#31
All right. Walking along the front, behind the
window in the cubicle of the entrance way looking
in I had the feeling of a. . uh. . business office.
Number of desks set up. Desks set up.
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#66
Ok.
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#31
Trying to figure out what makes me say that.
I'm inside now. Looking out these windows. . uh ..
appear ...... lower now that outside . . uh. . they
appear almost down to desk top level or beyond.
Feeling of a rather modern business office here.
Feeling of s-s-s travel ... travel (mumbling) office
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like .. uh .. first impression was like a tourist business.
Travel agency. That was just a feeling I have. Have
number of two, three desks along the window. .. One
behind the other with their ends against the window
so that they look forward my direction. Feeling of
a .. uh .. a counter in here, somewhere, with a waiting
area and chairs along the back of the waiting area
along the wall .. uh .. not a big counter .. like. . uh ..
desk sergeant counter but a waist high counter wood
that goes 20 feet. You get in here with a single
door, back, glassed in. Alot of glass in it. It's
in the back of that. Funny entrance hallway but it's
on the right side of it. As you come in you have to
go to the right.
#66
All right. That's fine. Relax and concentrate now.
Later you can draw for me where this area is in
relation to the interest of the building. At this
time relax and concentrate. I want you now to search
the entire building for people. Search the entire
building for people. Move now, at your own pace, and
locate people.
PAUSE
#31
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I have .. uh .. a feeling that .. uh .. (pause) down a hall
and on the left side of the hall there is something
going on in a room. I had al.an image of people sitting
and working as though they were looking at something
like a .. a reader or a oscilloscope. A CRT or something
I think there are two in this place. They have documents
of papers out and they're researching or reading or
looking for something. They have equipment there that
helps them
research and read and look for something.
#66
All right. Move to another area now in your search
for people.
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#31
Somewhere in the back of the building I have a group
of people, maybe six or seven, I have a bald man ...
but they are ... image I have is that these people are
sitting around a table.
The first impression was,
it was a round the table ... Let me try to put some
sort of order to this imagery here. It is at the
other end of the building from before and .. uh. . I have
the definite feeling this is a .. a room that has. . uh. ..
a room that is not a room but rather has pulled
tracked room dividers which separate it off like you
would find in a hotel or a restaurant. The feeling
. that these things are ceiling to floor, gray
accordian walls that slide on tracks in here to closel
off a small room. In this place, I have definite feeling
of people now .. the chairs are modern chairs with an S
shape leg. ... single leg. The discussion being held
here is
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Interesting. My feeling is that this is political
discussions being held here.
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They .. uh .. I get a mix ..... a mix bag. .. Possibly
three ..... I give you what I've got. I've got maybel
three or four prisoners. They are not bound or
anything. They are sitting at a table and then there
three or four others who are students sitting at
the table. I had the definite impression or the
thought flipped through my mind that not that these
people were collaborators but that these students
were singling out people for conversation and
political argument and also attempting to obtain
a feel for what has been happening from these
prisoners from an American point of view. Sort
of elicitation to get a feel for American
perspectives.
#66
Tell me some more about the prisoners that have
been chosen for this discussion.
#31
One man that strikes me .. uh .. is a a balding ... bald
man on top and he is .. he has a beard and a rather
almost cherubic (phonetic) faced. He is . . appears
to be mid or early 40 is all. And, appears to be
a .. um 175 and it's hard to tell with him sitting.
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Maybe 6 feet. 5 11, at the most. He's sitting
with his hands on the table as though he is
fiddling with something with his fingers. Like
one does when one talks or listens. Like a paper
clip or something weird. He's on the left side
now to me. The next ... Let me drop back and try
to get another image there.
#66
Ok.
Good. I will wait.
PAUSE
#31
I keep wanting to put a woman at this table.
She
has a.
#66
A woman hostage or a woman student?
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#31
Hostage.
She has a shoulder length (pause)
she has
a roundish face and a jaul. I have this riding of
a freckled complexion. Not blotched but freckles
and a sharp bridge of the nose.
I see here with
just above shoulder length hair.
Wanted to put
her there a sitting back a little ways, but, still
like leaning back in her chair.
#66
Ok. We've been at this for quite awhile now. I
would like to give you the opportunity to add anything
that you would like to add now and then prepare to
draw the images that you've had.
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#31
I've got a backache.
There is another .... I'm sure
there is another man here that is a hostage as well.
#66
Ok.
PAUSE
#66
Ok.
Now we'll draw the perceptions that you've had
of the target.
#31
Ok. First (pause) I had the definite feeling where
I started out I had the feeling I was at the right
end of the building where the notch is cut of it.
If you follow what I mean. There's a notch in the
building somewhere. OK. Feeling that there were
series of low windows along this side here.
OK.
But, that then on the left side of this I had the
feeling that there was a little bit of a porch
developed ... porch type structure developed, ok.
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Main part of the building continued along like this.
And, (pause) there's a break in it. And, that break
is the hallway I was talking about, ok. The hallway
goes back in like this, ok. and this is all covered
over of course. Like that. Let me see if I can
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. ok ..... and there's where the door is, I was
talking about. There on the right side. Like that.
Ok.
I had the feeling that back in here was dark
that the left .... that's what I was talking about.
This big buttress this side here of the building hay
no .... on the left has no windows, or anything,
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it's like sta .... I had the feeling I was standing
along side of one of these very modern, outside
fireplaces that are on the back of the house and you
come up next to this thing, and you just have this
... this massive feeling of just a blank, brick, solid/
massive thing on the left. OK.
#66
Which would be directly across from the doorway.
#31
.... the door. Right. From the door. Ok. And I
had a linear (phonetic) feeling as though this small
porch ... nominal porch only ..... just a little rain
cover
. was.
was nominally held up by 4x4s or
about that size.
I couldn't tell if they were round
or square but there were some posts here, in the
foreground.
When I went back of the hall that I'm
drawing, I looked out and I saw them again.
#66
So we have this hallway, that you call, or the
entrance that actually goes in there, is actually
like a piece of the building goes back in, and
you have to take a ... you go into that piece of the
building that is missing, and then take a right
to go into the door to get into the place.
#31
Right, Right. Correct. I did not perceive any
other doors back there. Just the one on the right.
That's all I am going to draw because I wasn't
paying too much attention to the roof. A little
bit of an overhang over the top of the windows
on the main side of the thing.
That's one.
Now, I'll draw an overhead in two.
Like that.
Along the right side, I didn't see anything back,
along the right side I had the feeling there was
a wall that went out and was somewhat of a. . somewhat
of a . . how do you describe it .. a hill with bushes
planted along this wall and this went on like this .
Out, about here, was a guy sitting on the little terrace
that's on the bottom of this wall. In the Xs is
the marks were roughly where the guy's position is.
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He was sort of goofing off, you know.
#66
Ok. Why don't you draw a little ... guard position
or sentry position.
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#31
I'll just put squatting guard because I had the
feeling he was sort goofing off for a quick smoke.
Maybe he was blowing some hash. I don't know.
I'll draw the dotted line here because I'm not too
sure this is the porch area and a couple little
things .... feeling of windows, inset, but windows
are drawn here .... on the right side. Now, I had
the feeling of a trail or a .... well, it was more
a feeling of a gravel path somewhere to my left.
So when I stood out here on the porch and looked
out, I could see a tree here and another tree
behind it. Sort of in a row, pointing to the
building but partially hidden but I could see
across this open space, over to the left of
number two that there ... it felt like a gravel
path and I would like to say that it was ... it was
a gravel asphalt combination. It wasn't really a
gravel pass that when you step in it your foot
sinks in, but, a path that's gravely and rough, but
solid and that it got little curbs. ... I had this
funny feeling it had little asphalt curbs along it
to sort of keep the grass out. Little tiny asphalt
curbs.
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Continuing to work on two then as the overhead.
I had the feeling that there was a counter .. . Hov
am I going to do this? There was a door behind me.
There is something there. This is the thing here.
That wall goes along here. Here are chairs.
Wike
waiting chairs. Here is the counter. Thsi thing
is probably out of proportion. Along here were
the desks. I'm not saying that's to scale here.
Let me go inside and draw.
Ok. Draw me some arrows to those desks.
#66
#31
Feeling was like this. I'll go. . three is an
interior shot .. ok .. foreground .. shot .. counter ..
goes off in the distance like this ... The door
.... the wall .... the chairs ... sitting along this
wall .... here's the counter. Now, this is the door.
Glass door.
Aluminum frame, modern type door.
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This thing is indented so that ... How do I want to
indent it. This wall is a box in number two. You
will notice there's a dotted box here. This wall
here, number three, that's right inside the building
is the edge of that box. So there's something ....
There's a box there that cuts everything off. In
the back is the wall. A feeling of a long and low
window which, when you get right down to it, I believe
is just this first window here. It's probably
another room right here. Like this. Here is
(pause) ... here is where the desks are. Come on
#31 you can draw a better perspective than that.
The tops of the desks are almost along the window.
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I would say that there might be several other desks
there.
#66
Ok.
That gives me an idea where this entrance is
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.what side of the building this entrance is
in relationship to where this room might be in the
complex. From this point I asked you to look for
some people, and you found yourself in an area where
people were reading something.
#31
They were researching, reading. They had equipment.
They were looking and digging. My first impression
was that it was computers they were sitting at.
Some sort of a computer terminal. But, then, the
more. I sat there, the more I looked at what they/
Were doing. I had the idea of papers spread all
over the place looking for dirt. Going through
files and looking for dirt and records and stuff
#66
Ok.
Is this in this room?
#31
No.
#66
A different room.
#31
Yeah. Tell you what I'm going to do here. There,
that's more like it. I think that there's ..... a vall
goes up like that. What I ended up with is ... walking
on two ..... on sketch two I'll put an X in the rough
area of where it is.
I'll call it X sub 1 ... is where
that place is.
#66
The other room where they're reading.
So they're
.... so between here, and here there are partitions.
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Right.
The room with the reading stuff and
everything. Right. I had to go down the hall
and everything else. But rough guess .... uh ...
as though I was standing at the door ...... I'll
put a little map here .... as though I was standing
at the door .... here in the foreground is the
counter ...... here in the background ... ok ... there's
a hallway there .... counter ...... come on #31 you
can do better than that. When I started to look
for people, I went this way because there was
nobody out here in the forward area. Nobody out
here in this central ..... where the counter is ...
everything else. So, I went across the room,
katty corner, like this, into the left foreground
of three, which is into this hallway. All right.
Having been shown the overhead imagery .... the general
structure of the building I had the feeling that I
was cruising down this hallway and that I got pretty
darn near to the end of it and then made a left.
The left ... the idea .... the left which is going out
on the left wing of the building ... the far wing of
the building is where I was being drawn. Is where
I was going. Suffice to say, I went down the
hallway, I was drawn on ... a wi ... out off the hallway
to the left, ok, and in that, then, picture here
is doorframe right.
#66
Moving to page five.
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Five, right. Here, I had a feeling of .... feeling
of a window .... on this desk thing ... this goes
around two corners, I think, was. . uh. . I thought
... technical things went through my mind ...
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computers, radio, microfish reader, records. This
kind .... all these things came through my mind because
there is some sort of ... a piece of equipment there
sitting up on this desk which is electronic.
I
had the computer feeling ..... feeling was based on
a feeling that these guys ... they were looking at
a cathodray (phonetic) tube of some kind. They
were sitting out here in the foreground. Guy was
sitting. .. feeling like he was holding open this big
manual or was reading something. He's sitting here.
The other guy ... the other person had their back to
me and was sitting there looking at it. Like this
guy was reading, and he was reading and they all
trying to dig up garbage. They were trying to find
out more about what goes on.
#66
So let me reiterate here. I asked you to go look for
people and you found yourself going down the hallway
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being drawn to the left and then looking into
a doorway in which you saw this technical thing.
#31
Yes. And, sitting reading manual or messages.
Here's another guy ... ok ... another guy sitting,
working in ... on. . uh. . microfish ... CRT, computer
terminal or the like. That's this guy, here.
This guy's like helping him out. Both in there.
That's their project. That's a window. Uh ..
I got a feeling for massive papers laying all over
the place. Books and papers very disorganized and
jumbled ..... somebody had been working there for an
awful long time ..... papers strewn all over desk.
That was somewhere down in ... on sketch ... I'm
sorry somewhere on sketch was in the far upper
right corner of the building. All right. Then
you started me looking for more and I .. uh .. came
back out the hall. . tried to look right and left
at the same time ..... got absolutely no feeling for
anyone down in that wing of the building.the
right end of the building. Now, as I came Out,
back into what I thought was the .... the tour. . travel
area and everything .. . the travel area, the counter,
everything stayed the same.
I. . uh .. but the left,
now on my return, the left which is actually the
back part of the building in that area, began to
take on a new .. began to take on depth because now
I was going through that area. I got the feeling
it was all one big open bay. That there was no
real ... I did not see or detect any partitioning or
anything separating the front area of this part
that I described from the back end of that room.
I got the feeling it was a large room.
Where are we? Six. OK. Counter over here.
Chairs
here on the left of the sketch. Counter little longer
like that. I got down there. Now, what the hell did
I see? If I could remember what I saw.
It just
goes back and goes off. A hallway. I had the feeling
that this .... I came back out the hallway ... with a
dotted arrow there. .. hall from number five, ok. I got
back out here. This was essentially all open but I
had the feeling that, that it was opened but could
be closed off in places. I was looking across this
open room, open bay, essentially not much there.
You have to remember I was looking for people too.
I might have been looking through a whole bunch of
stuff. I had the feeling, just off in themiddle
of nowhere, a remote corner of this big room was
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this round table and it had six or seven people
sitting at it. Up there in ..... here ..... ok ....
good ways away ..... you know ..... 50 feet away ....
60 feet away ..... and that surrounding this room.
Well I'll do it more ..... it was more like these
big, almost like these curtains .... you know these
accordian type panels you can use to close off a
conference room ....
.. there was a feeling that this
area in the back was very flexible and that it had
alot of these moving walls and partitions in the
back and it just happened that these guys were
sitting inside a bunch of partitions that had been
pulled together to make a little closed off room.
All right. Go on to seven and I'll give you more
of what's there. Seven. I also had it across the
foreground as well. These are the accordian type
things. A little handle on them. Gray. . brown/gray.
Accordian wall partitions. In here was this table.
At the table was bald guy. Little bit of hair around
the back. Bald guy. I got the idea that these
people weren't ... it was almost like a political
indoctrination cleaverly disguised. Let's discuss
our problem now, ... this is the situation ... you
know ... give us your feelings about the American
-people ... You know. -- What do you think ... you know.
There's a bald guy here. Had the feeling of the
woman sitting here. Another fellow, who I think vas
a prisoner ... not too sure ... notice how the bald
(mumbling) on this poor sucker is most important
thing. Anyway, another man ... I didn't even get a
chance to recognize him. A woman .. bald man ...
um .. another man ... ok ... and then a raid (phonetic)
around the conference room opposite them. Not
opposite them, you know ... around them were other
people.
#66
Ok. These others. What role were they in?
#31
Well, it's hard to tell. They were like ... they
were questioners but they were more elicitors.
They were coming on friendly. they were coming on
in. . how can we work together and solve this problem
... type of a situation. They were not interrogating
hostily ... they were not angry ... they were not upset ..
they were not intimidating the other people. They
were like say ..... trying to bring them out of their
shell for manipulative purposes but they were not
openly hostile. I think that they were the captors
and that these people were the captives.
The
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striking feeling that I had was the peoples ...
what you hear about the people's commissars ..
You know. . The whole indoctrination. What do you
call it ... flaguration (phonetic) It's used in
communist. Everybody gets up and confesses how
they really weren't a great communist this week.
They prmise they will do better. That type of a
thing. Other than that, I'm really at e loss for
words as to how to describe it. I'm going to
label this thing indoctrination.
Indoctrination
disguised as a political discussion ... session.
The thing to get across, like I said in this
session is that these people are not collaborators
in the classic collaboratiry sense. They are
required to come here and then they are manipu ....
they're desires and wishes to get out of this
thing alive
(turned tape over)
#66
Ok. You were saying .. uh. . a little bit more about
the flavor of what you felt in this discussion.
#31
Yes.
Not knowing where the tape cut off actually.
I'll start .... it's .... they're not collaborators in
a sense that they are actively assisting. What they
are called ... what they is ... the captors are trying
solicit their help. Playing on their fears and
saying ..... look if you help us .... if we talk about
this .... we come up with some solutions to this then
it will help us all to get out of this thing. You
know ..... get back to your loved ones type situation
.... and they're using this sort of a media in a
forum to do several purposes. One is to gain the
captives assistance of ..... the unwitting assistance
in assessing .... assessing Americans .... assessing
Americans. What do you think now. What are your
countrymen going to do now.Why did they react
this way. We don't understand. At the same time
they're using that as a means to go .... to push this
big guilt trip, you know. To push this big guilt
trip on the captives as being representatives of
running dogs of American Imperialism, bla, bla, bla.
Getting them to do this big confessional routine
that's, that's. . uh. . that I was talking about earlier.
We're really sorry we did all this stuff, bla, bla,
bla, and so on and all the rest of the stuff. So
they're not cooperating in the sense of active
cooperation. They're being pumped for what they've
got and at the same time they're being force fed
political indoctrination cleaverly disguised.
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I didn't get any feeling for a whole bunch of
guards, or anything, standing around. Pretty
dignified type of low keyed interpersonal type of
a relation .... of a scenario ... you know ... group
discussion .. scenario. It doesn't really come off
if you've got 18 boogie men hanging around with
rifles and brass knuckles too.
#66
Ok
#31
That's about all I got.
#66
Ok. Anything you want to add?
How do you think
your imagery was compared to other sessions?
#31
It's about the same. You know. Average.
Once I
got into the session .. there was alot of noise going
into the session .... enough distraction noise. It
wasn't really bad but there was enough distraction
noise. Once I got the front porch idea ... once I
got something I could be interested in that would
key my interest then everything picked up and it
went all right.
#66
If I showed you some pictures do you think you
might be able to recognize the people you-saw at
the table?
#31
I think I will recognize the bald guy and probably
the woman.
I got ... I got enough. Have a feeling
there's a limit to draw on women but theres one of
two.
The bald guy, I think I could.
#66
Ok.
Anything else you want to add then?
#31
No.
#6.5
Ok. This time I'll show you some photographs and
let you study them and see if you can possibly
pick out the folks that you identified during the
session. We'll turn the tape off just to save time
and we'll come back on afterwards.
Ok. You've had a chance to study the photographs.
You've picked out a couple of people here and for
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female hostage you've selected Catherine KOOB.
Do you want to tell me why you Selected that one?
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#31
Well, I think this photograph is a little old.
The woman that I saw had a narrower nose which
this one doesn .... a narrower nose bridge, but
her hair is longer now. She had wide strong
jaw and the other thing that I remembered was
on the tape during the interview is that she had
a freckly complexion as opposed to a dark, tan,
or whatever. It was freckly. And this woman
looks like she would have such a complexion than
the other women that I looked at. Although the
other woman's hair is probably right. I think
that this is a rather old picture. I did not
see the woman wearing glasses. She has glasses
in this one. I feel better about this one. Let's
put it that way.
#6.5
Ok. The male hostage. You couldn't identify any
photograph as being that individual. Although you
did select an individual that most closely resembled
him. That was a Jerry MIELE.
You want to talk
about that for a second.
#31
The predominant feature in the person is a bald
head.
Well, this MIELE is close to being bald.
That's the main feature, but, the other thing that
I said about the guy is he looks like he's 5 11 or
maybe 6 feet, but that he wasn't quite. . . I-don't
know if I said it or not .... hw looked to me like
he was out of shape. He was sitting in short sleeves
and he looked like he was out of shape but about
... in his 40 ... and. . uh. . this guy MIELE just sort
of strikes me as being the better of two guys that
are actually balding in the photograph. Granted,
this too, may be an old photograph. I got the
impression that this guy is totally bald on top.
Both of these possibilities still have some hair
on top of their head.
#6.5
The other possibility that you are referring to
#31
And he was not wearing glasses and there are no
glasses in that photograph.
#6.5
/ok.
The other possibility that you are referring
to is a Richard H. MOREFIELD
#31
Again
The reason I selected his photograph is
him being a possibility, eventhough it's not as
strong as the other fellow's ... the balding affect.
Just from his general body build. .. I wouldn't say
.... this is not nearly so strong for this guy as
it is for the other. That's all.
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That's the only thing I can say about him. The
main feature is his bald head. Thinning out on
top.
#6.5
I think what's important is to get across that we don't
have a positive identifications in this case. We
just have a couple of . . uh. . suspect candidates, ok.
We want to make sure that we recorded that.
Ok. Any other questions?
Comments?
#31
No.
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of the hostage personnel. He knew he would be working against
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an area referred to as area "I". He was shown overhead imagery of the
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"I" was pointed out to the viewer by the interviewer.
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