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SESSION REPORT
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SUMMARY ANALYSIS
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DC-92
1.
(S/NOFORN)
This report documents a remote viewing session conducted in
compliance with a request for information concerning an individual identified
SG1B
as
2.
(S/NOFORN) The remote viewer's impressions of the target are provided as
raw intelligence data, and, as such, have not been subjected to any intermediate
analysis, evaluation or collation. Interpretation and use of the information
provided is the responsibility of the requestor.
3.
(S/NOFORN)
The protocol used for this session is detailed in the document
Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol (S), undated.
4. (S/NOFORN) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions during
the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by the remote viewer
reference his impressions of the target site. At TAB B is target cuing infor-
mation provided the remote viewer.
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DC-92
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#66:
This will be a remote viewing session for 1000 hours,
4 March 1981.
This will be a pre-session re-, pre-session briefing for
the remote viewer. Today we are going to be targeting .on
the building in the photograph I'm showing you. In this
building we are going to be looking for a man who we have
targeted before,
whose nickname is
SG1B
official in the
chief on one of
He's about 53
years old, 6 feet tall, 175 pounds. Very stoop shouldered
gentleman, his hair is light, smoothly combed back, reced-
ing hairline. He has a beak like nose and wears reading
glasses.
He's a very high
in fact he is a
SG1B
SG1B
SG1B
Now, it is approximately s- as we start the session it will
be approximately 6:00 in the evening in
SG1B
SG1B
in
where that building is located. What we want to
do is work on the building itself today, go to building
itself, and then enter the building in the area where the
gentleman is standing here in the picture I've shown you.
There's a doorway there. So we want to go to the building,
and starting at the doorway, and tell me a little bit about
the doorway, and as you walk through what's, what's it
like there.
#31:
Okay.
SG1B
SG1B
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#66:
Then we're gonna go to
office, to
office. Now you don't have to report to me during the
session the routes you took, but what we'll ask you after
the session to draw a floor plan style concept of how you
get from the entrance to
office.
#31:
Okay.
SG1B
#66:
Now I'm gonna show you the area in the building where it's
suspected or believed. Notice this building- and I'm point-
ing to here with all the windows in it- is somewhat behind
this front building where the entrance is, and it's possibly
an odd shape, like maybe it has a little curve to it or a
little jog to it. The area I'm pointing to between the
third and the fifth floors in the back building area, right
in here, between the third and fifth floors is where he
may be. Nobody is really sure exactly where his office is
in this building.
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#31:
Okay.
#66:
Okay?
#31:
Between third and fifth. Okay.
#66:
It's suspected to be between the third and fifth floor in
that larger building behind the entrance building.
#31:
Mm-hmm. Okay.
#66:
Okay. Do you have any further questions?
#31:
No.
#66:
All right. You now have 30 minutes to prepare yourself for
this session.
PAUSE
Relax and concentrate now and focus your attention on the
building in the photograph I have shown you. Focus your
attention on the building in the photograph I have shown
you, in the present time, in the present time. Focus and
describe the building in the photograph I have shown you.
PAUSE
#31:
A overhang porch ... it's a little cover there .... Feeling of
a couple ... simple two steps, two steps in near the building.
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I'm right on the porch now.
.
Seems to be a jog there ...
a jog in the building.
Standing on the porch- wait a
minute
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There's a building right on ..... there's a window right on
the porch.
...
I get the feeling of a controlled doors ...
that, uh, you go up and there's this ... (mumble) stand at the
window and, uh, the guy checks you out. And then the guy
controls the doors ...
And that he has two windows.
One
looks out at the street, that you can see from the street.
And another one thats ... looks on the porch, looks at the
door. Along the little porch is a little row of small shrubs,
not much more than ankle high, and they're all covered over
with snow or something.
SG1B
#66:
Proceed now from this point to
office.
#31:
Okay, let me get that (mumble) little deeper here.
#66:
I will wait.
PAUSE
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#31:
I keep
.down the hall, right ...... Very large
reception station. Left and it's .... like I'm back outside for
a little jog ... That's just for my memory. I'll go on.
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PAUSE
Okay.
+15
#66:
Now describe his office to me.
PAUSE
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#31:
See a ..... feeling of ... it's funny, it's almost a classroom
like .... something reminds me of a classroom like .... There
the, uh, it's got two large, uh ... somewhere in here, it's
got two large, uh, blackboards. It seems to be sorta long
and rectangular and he sits at ... one end like with his back
to these boards that is used for planning and .... windows down
the one wall. And there's a, uh, in front of his desk is
a, sort of an elongated conference table.
It sits on an
axis ... perpendicular to his desk. It has beige chairs at it.
They're not super comfortable, but they're sorta modern
chairs ... squarich cushions ...
SG1B
#66:
Focus now on
dress to me.
and describe his
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#31:
I have a, uh ... shirt sleeve type feeling ... some sort of a
uniform, but a, uh ... more of a dressy uniform. It's funny,
it's ... but he's not got the tunic on, the tunic is off. It's
not the field uniform, brown wool with jack boots type thing,
it's a feeling of a uniform like our green uniform ... our class
A uniform. And it's just sort of a ... like a ... green, it's
a real ... yuk green, like a ... something looks very, very arti-
ficial green about it. But he's not got that on. It's like
he's working he has his shirt sleeves rolled up, but he
doesn't have his tie on and, but his ... if he was to leave
he would be wearing a .... this uniform.
#66:
What is the most distinguishing characteristic about this?
#31:
The clothing?
#66:
Yes.
#31:
Uh, the color green and the, uh ... feeling is that the coat is
like a double-breasted type thing ...
#66:
All right.
#31:
He wears it with a hat ... like our peaked cap, our visored cap.
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#66:
Okay. I have no further questions about the target area
at this time. I'd like you to take the opportunity to comment
as you see fit .. And before you extract yourself from the ses-
sion retrace your steps back out of the General's office,
down to the entrance way, to check the continuity of your
first perceptions. I will wait.
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PAUSE
#31:
Okay .
#66:
Okay. If you have no further comments let's prepare to draw
the impressions you have had about the target in the photo-
graph I have shown you.
#31:
Okay. Um, sketch #1.is a sketch of the front ... that I referred
to as the front because I was only shown one photograph.
That's the small, two level, two story portion of the complex
that we were looking at, with some apparent entrance doors
there. Uh, snow's piled around, and the large portion of the
building is in the background behind this small two story
part of the building.
#66:
Okay. So what I'm looking at when I look to the top of your
thing I then see over the edge of that to the building that's
behind it.
#31:
Right. You're seeing the building behind, right.
#66:
Okay.
#31:
And it's labeled building in rear.
#66:
Okay.
#31:
See I was gonna keep it quick and dirty but you wanted to
talk about it.
Okay. Sketch 2 is, from right to left what you come across
as you go in the entrance at sketch 1. Past the, the main
access control point, down a small hallway. There's a
counter like interior visitor control, and then you go across
into the other building. Uh, two things here is that I feel
that in the outer two story building is where essentially
the guards and the security force hang out, upstairs, above the
interior visitor control place. And the two buildings are
at a, at an ang- the two buildings are structured at some sort
of a funny pie shaped angle so that there's actually a big
wedge between them. And that the visitor is transversed this
wedge by walking across a covered walkway. When they got to
the other building they enter a hallway which goes down the
face of that building. That's sketch 2.
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#31:
Sketch 3 is a view of that hallway I was just referring to,
down the face of the large building. I had the feeling that
in the center flat part of that building, the building's
sorta wing-shaped, I guess you'd describe it. In the center
of that is where the elevators are. And the elevators go up
and down that center part. And that on each floor there is
an interior elevator lobby right there in that flat part.
That's sketch 3.
#66:
Okay.
#31:
Sketch 4 is the Gen-Gen's office.
#66:
Okay, can you briefly tell me what happened in your imagery
between your imagery of going down the hallway here and-
#31:
Yeah. Well, I knew that the suspicion of the area that the
General's office was in. Uh, rather than wait for an elevator
and all that kind of stuff, I figured we'd be there all day,
I just sort of said, okay, let me drop back and let me just
go there. So there's discontinuity of imagery between 3 and 4.
I did not, you know, plunk along inch by inch.
When I got to sketch 4 I got into the General's desk area and
conference table first. Um ... again, feeling that there is a
door to the right of the General's desk in sketch 4. And that
there is, down in front of his desk is a long conference
table like you would probably find in any ranking officer's
area. Two blackboards behind it in which he can doodle and do
his planning and write out things for briefings and that
kinda stuff.
Um ... then, that was it. Okay? That was essentially it.
That's where I got the General's, uh, desk area.
I was
having trouble finding out where I was, and I wanted to spend
some time finding out where I was. So I went- I knew that I
was in off of a main hallway, so I went to the hallway which
is the hallway at the upper part of sketch 4. Uh. .. it's
hard to describe. There are windows along that hallway, there
are other offices all up and down it, and I was standing out-
side this hallway trying to figure out how high above the ground
I was.
So I was standing there and I figured well I looked like I was
about the 5th or 6th floor. Uh, trying to figure out, track
myself inside the building. And where I finally decided I was
was ... it's hard to describe. Around the corner shown me in
the picture and farther down that side. It's not on the
winged side, or the winged face of the building in the photo-
graph. I had the feeling I was down and around that corner in
what would be a corner of the building that's not even in the
photograph. It's off the edge of the photograph that you
showed me, 'cause it's farther into the back. All right?
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#66:
Tell me about your experience in this-
#31:
Okay. I know how I can describe that. Let me make a note on
sketch 4 here. That direction of the arrow here is to the
winged face portion of the building.
#66:
From the office, is that the same direction as to the elevators?
#31:
Yeah. Yeah, and to the elevators as well. Maybe I oughta do
another sketch of overview. I don't know. Anyway ... So
looking at it from the picture's perspective. I walked in
the front doors. I went all the way down to the flat part
in the center of the building behind, I went up to the 5th floor
and I continued walking away into the background of the
picture-
#66:
I understand.
#31:
-hung a left, went around the corner and went down the far side
of the building. Okay.
#66:
Okay.
#31:
So anyway I was there. Let me go on with this. I was there.
Then I figured well where's the General's office in relation to
where I am on the hallway. So I re-entered the area, posing
again as I was earlier. I was posing in my own mind as though
I was some visiting dignitary who was just storming through
the building and everybody would cooperate with him. As I
entered the door thinking that I would go right into the
General's office I discovered that there was an inter- or an
interim office that I had to go through. And as I walked through
that door it was unoccupied say for one guy who was like a
lowly ranking military clerk who popped to attention in the
corner very nicely as I stepped through the door. And, uh,
gave me really quickly the idea that the General really was not
there, and that he was the only guy there and that he was really
quaking in his boots because some visitor had just walked in
on him and he's all by himself. He sits in a rear desk.
I said, I sort of like threw a mental query at this guy who
sits at this front desk, and the words I got back were some-
thing like "Kerputkin" or "Kripotkin" (phonetic) meaning a
name of another man, these are two males, of another man who I
got the idea was essentially a ... the General's secretary, male
secretary, as, in the sense of his aide, his bodyguard, his
secretary, his driver, he makes the arrangements in the logis-
tics and he plans the parties. Uh, maybe he's not his driver,
you know, that would be too menial. But essentially what he
does is he spends 5 or 6, he's a, like assigned to the general
but he really doesn't have any damn thing to do. And he like
spends his days sitting there screwing off. And a friend of
the, I would refer to this guy in uniform as being a "Speedy"
4. He's a low ranking enlisted man, like a Spec 4 in the U.S.
Army or something like that, Spec 5.
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#31:
Uh, Kripotkin is not in at the time of my visit either. The
office is small and is very humble-jumbled and cluttered, like
it is a really working, a you betcha this is really where the
action is, a working admin office that supports the General.
It's not some plastic nicely carpeted place where a chic like
Lonnie Anderson sits and files her nails all day long. This
is a really honest to god working admin office. Okay?
#66:
Okay.
#31:
Does that do it?
#66:
Yeah, that's fine. Uh, I want to ask you one more time- this
office then in referring to the picture that I showed you, this
office is not on the face of that picture?
#31:
No.
#66:
It is around the corner behind.
#31:
Correct.
#66:
Okay.
#31:
That's correct. You cannot see the office in the photograph.
It's in the background, covered up, obscured by the building.
Okay. That's 4.
You asked me what he was wearing. Again, I was, some difficul-
ties whether the General was there or not. I don't believe
the General or Kripotkin were there, and I think that it was the
end of the day and that this guy "Speedy" 4 was caught unawares
by my visit. But, had the General been there I would have seen
him as I saw him in my trying to figure out, you know, what he
would look like, what he would wear in this office. He would
have been, uh, he's a working type person, he would have had
his coat off and he would have had his shirt sleeves rolled up,
a light type shirt, and probably his necktie ripped off so that
it, it was an open neck shirt. But hanging on a hangar some-
where close by would be the remnant of what I would refer to
as a people's working uniform, an office type uniform ...
An office type uniform that is, uh, almost a metallic green,
like a kelly green, it's a funny green. It's not a natural earth
green like our class A uniform is, like the Army class A uni-
form is. It's more green than that, more vibrant, electric,
it's more electric than that. Uh, double breasted and it's worn
with a, uh, what's that? A garrison cap? That's a garrison
cap, yeah. It's worn with a garrison cap matching in color,
black leather build, uh, that has a red, in his case it has a
red band around the head, a deep red, not the red that I put in
there on sketch 5 but a deep red. Um, fire engine red ...
And, uh, when he was, if he was wearing. this double breasted type
tunic or coat he would have, then he would put his tie back on
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#31:
and roll his shirt sleeves down. And it serves the same function
as the Army's green uniform, class A. It's their office working
uniform. It's not a field uniform and it's not a tuxedo, it's
an office working uniform. Very plain, very drab, very pro-
letarian.
#66:
Okay, I noticed, uh, conspicuously lacking from a military
uniform is any insignias, any ranks, any-
#31:
That's right. That's right.
#66:
How do you feel about it, looking at the picture?
#31:
That's just the way it is, there's no rank, no buttons- uh, no,
but- there's buttons, but I mean there's no rank, no medals,
no- um, that's the way I feel it is, is it's, has no rank, no
medals, no medallions, no badges. All it has is the buttons
on it. Doesn't have a name tag even.
It's a very plain people's
suit uniform.
#66:
Okay.
#31:
I am reminded- maybe to describe this, I don't even know if the
SG1B
have this type of a uniform. But I'll tell you who
did. I am reminded of the uniforms which Hitler and Goebbels,
the civilian non-military people in Nazi Germany wore, and
they would wear them, they were, they looked like straight
suits, business suits, and then they'd put a military hat on.
And it looked like a very plain straight suit with a military
hat. That's what I'm reminded of. Okay? That type of a
feeling.
That's it.
#66:
Okay.
I have no further questions.
#31:
Okay.
I have no further answers.
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TARGET CUING INFORMATION
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DC-92
1. (S/NOFORN)
Information provided the remote viewer prior to the session
is documented as a pre-session briefing and is included in the transcript.
2.
(S/NOFORN) During the session the viewer was asked to elaborate on portions
of his imagery that seemd relevant to the task at hand.
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