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2 August 1972
MEMORANDUM FOR:
Chief, TSD/BAB
SUBJECT
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ESP
1. Attached is a copy of a letter providing some back-
ground on the ESP caper, which I mentioned to you. It was
given to me by
the engineer in Applied Physics
Branch who is in touch with Dr. Puthoff.
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briefed
who was, according to
very excited about the whole thing. He encouraged
to pursue it, and
plans to come up with
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Puthoff.
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has also been in touch with Life Sciences
Division of DDS&T, and reports that they have a very active
interest in the ESP field, and have been collecting data for
some time. They had heard of Ingo Swann and are interested
in following his activities. According to
they also
said that they have a consultant who reports to them phenom-
ena in the field, and that a number of Government agencies
are now getting involved,
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and somebody named
from Life Sciences
are planning a
trip to the West Coast on 11 August, when
they will meet Ingo Swann and have a chance to watch him
flex his sphincter. He invited someone from BAB to join
the group.
I took the liberty of saying that we would be
a little thin on personnel during that time, but would be
Fi-
interested in hearing what happened when he returns.
nally, he mentioned that Life Sciences is planning on
forming a "coordinating committee" to work on ESP and the
data that is coming in, and they are saving us a slot on
the committee.
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STANFORD RESEARCH INSTITUTE
MENLO PARK, CALIFORNIA 94025
June 27, 1972
At the suggestion of Russell Targ I am writing you about 2.
observation in the laboratory involving one Ingo Swann. a Nos Tori:
artist. To introduce myself, I am a laser physicist at SBI and.
co-author of the book "Fundamentals of Quantum Electronics, " by
Pantell and Puthoff, a Wiley publication.
Through some private correspondence I received some infor-
tion from Dr. Gertrude Schweidler at City College, New York, that
they had done sore experiments in the Department of Daychology with
Ingo Swann, a young man who had done some rather amazing chi% . in
their laboratory, including the raising and lowering of torparwww .
at theraistors placed some distance from his body. Since he wes
coming out to the West Coast, it was suggested that perhaps, as a
physicist with sensitive equipment available, I might like to work
with him in an experiment or two. I agreed and invited hin ou ..
In order to eliminate the possibility of trickery, I decided
on an experiment where if trickery were successful, that would bo
nearly as important as any direct effect he could produce. At the
suggestion of Dr. Little (Stanford Physics Dept .) I made arrar crc's
to use the superconductor shielded magnetometer being used in the
quark experiments of Dr. Arthur Hobbard, Stanford Physics Dept. THIS
magnetometer is located in a wol. in the Varian Physics building, tad
is shielded by an aluminum container, copper shielding, and, most
important, a superconducting cannister. Dr. Hebbard assured mo thes
i4 tests with large electromagnets no signals have been inducci in
the shielded magnetometer from the outside. The magnetometer is of
the SQUID variety.
Prior to the experiment a decaying magnetic field had been se:
up inside the magnetometer, and its steady decay with time provided
a background call:what went which register as : sind .
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decay
e calibration field.
The system had been running
for something on the order of an hour with no noise. Ingo was shown
the setup and told that if he were to affect the magnetic field in
the magnetometer it would show up as a change in the output recording.
He then placed his attention on the interior of the magnetometer (his
description) at which point the frequency of the sine wave doubled
for a couple of cycles (see output), or roughly to seconds. As you
can imagine, we were quite amazed, and Art then said, "Well, maybe
it's noise -- it would really be something if you could stop the sine
wave altogether." Ingo proceeded to do just that, as can be seen in
the graph, for a period of roughly 10 seconds. He then "let go, " at
which point the output returned to normal. We asked him to describe
what he had done, and he explained that he could see the apparatus
inside and that looking at different parts created the effect. As he
described that he was doing, the recording traced out a cycle as had
occurred originally (doubl) frequency) . A rather peculiar dip in the
recording took place then, and upon questioning him as to what was
happening, he said he was looking at a new part, the niobium ball
sitting in a cup which was inert for now in the magnetometer experi-
ment (it is used in the quark experiment). We asked him to refrain
from thinking about the apparatus, and the normal pattern then traced
out for several minutes while we engaged him in conversation on other
subjects. At one point he started to discuss the magnetometer again,
at which point the tracing went into a high frequency pattern. At
our request he stopped, and we terminated the observation as he was
tired from his effort. We then left the lab, and Art Hebbard then
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continued to run the apparatus for over an hour with no trace of noise
ar nonsinusoidal activity. At various times during this and the
following day where similar data were taken, the experiment was observed
by numerous graduate students, and also by Dr. Little of the Physics
Department, and by Dr. Martin Leo from SLAC (Stanford Linear Accelerator);
the designer of the electron storage ring.
An interesting side light of the experiment was that ingo was
able to describe rather well what the interior of the device looked
like, apparently with some form of direct observation. I am quite
certain that he would not have had a chance to look at a diagram
beforehand, as he did not know that we were going to use this particular
piece of apparatus until we arrived in the laboratory.
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At this point I wish to state that I consider this an observation,
not a controlled experiment. There are variables I would want to
check if we had time and money, such as whether it was the recording
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would be tested by a d.
ject of the apparatus from the
recording equipment to see if he recording would continue to change
on command.
There is not much more that can be said about the observation.
If further work were to validate the observation, the implications
are staggering, to say the least. However, before we speculate . I
think it is necessary to remain cautious and try to arrange for Ingo
to return from the East Coast and to perform some carefully-controlled
experiments to see whether the phenomena continue to hold under
rigorous and well-defined conditions.
As a postscript, we did try to repeat the temperature experiment
using a hp quartz thermometer and did get the variations requested.
However, the environment was not well controlled, so I consider the
experiment suggestive but inconclusive.
If you wish forther information on this or have any suggestions
please do not hesitate to contact me further about this matter.
With best regards,
Dr. H. E. Puthoff
Senior Research Engineer
Electronics and Bioengineering Laboratory
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