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PROJECT SUN STREAK (U)
ERV SESSION PROCEDURES REPORT
WARNING NOTICE:
INTELLIGENCE SOURCES AND METHODS INVOLVED
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CONTROL NUMBER: 8709
NICKNAME:
TARGET COUNTRY: UR
SESSION NUMBER: 04
MISSION STATUS: Continuing
TECHNIQUE UTILIZED: ERV
SOURCE
IDENTIFIER: 079
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(S/NF/SK)
INTERVIEWER TASKING:
Tasking as listed in the
previous sessions conducted with this Source on this project has not
been changed or re-directed.
This session was concerned with Phase
II of the tasking package, the description of the characteristics and
configuration of the Soviet prototype/counterpart to the US "Stealth"
bomber.
Other phases of the tasking package were not addressed in
this session.
2.
(S/NF/SK)
SOURCE TASKING:
Source was told this was a
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continuation of the last session and that She would be receiving new
tasking during the session.
In addition, Source was provided the
same encrypted coordinates as the previous sessions, 137500/112794,
as per Extended Remote Viewing (ERV) protocols.
3.
(S/NF/SK)
INCLEMENCIES:
There were no reportable incidents or
anomalies which may have influenced the data obtained in this
session.
4.
(S/NF/SK)
SUMMARY :
Source furnished the attached summary which
was prepared following the session and submitted to the Interviewer
within 24 hours after the session.
The completeness of the
typewritten summary has been compared to the Interviewer's notes and
all omissions, changes, and/or corrections have been verified as
acceptable by the Interviewer.
In addition to the information
provided in the summary, Source provided additional information
during the actual session which was inadvertently omitted from Her
summary and which may impact on the final analysis of the data
provided.
That additional data is provided below in raw unevaluated
form:
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REFERENCES: None
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(S/NF/SK)
Source's description of the "second" (Soviet)
aircraft were similar in many details.
Both aircraft were maintained
at well guarded installations and restricted their flying times to
night.
The configuration of the aircraft were quite similar except
that the Soviet model was smaller, carried a smaller payload and was
built with older and less sophisticated technology.
Additionally the
Soviet aircraft did not seem to relay on a radar masking or detection
avoidance system to accomplish its mission.
Instead, the aircraft
and its crew relied on the maneuverability and control systems built
into the plane to enter and exit the target area with a high degree
of survivability.
b.
(S/NF/SK)
The electronic components and state of the art
developments found in the US Stealth bomber were essentially non-
existent in the Soviet aircraft.
There were
Jamming"
devices
and apparently r - attempt to conceal or mask exhaust gases
and/or
heat with Stealth "filters".
The power unit (engines) , as
well as
the actual flight controls on the Soviet aircraft produced a less
smooth ride than the US model but overall the Soviet aircraft still
relied on balance and aerodynamic "smoothness" to enhance its
performance.
Both aircraft relied on the ability to approach a
target at high altitude and to drop quickly to extremely low flight
patterns to make their actual bombing run. This feat is accomplished
in both cases by the use of very powerful engines.
In the Stealth
bomber, the success of the mission is determined by its ability to,
"fly undetected" and not by any other on-board active defense or
weapons systems.
In the Soviet aircraft, the survivability is based
pon its ability to out-maneuver AAA fica and/or other attack
aircraft as well
as the high state of training for the flight crews.
For these reasons, Source perceived that the Soviet model is more
likely to survive its mission since it would be able to evade from
the target area better that the Stssith bomber which is, "larger and
less maneuverable.
C.
(S/NF/SK)
Source described an unusual
aspect of the Soviet
aircraft when She reported the presence of a, "ball which is held in
suspensionat an exact location, not one degree more ... which enables
the aircraft to work".
Source further described the "ball" as being,
"in front of the aircraft", but not attached to it and which provided
information and directions to the aircraft so that, "while the
aircraft is moving this is in action".
While this type of
information is, at this point, too sketchy to draw definitive
conclusions, it would appear that Source is perceiving some sort of
"arexy" control system which acts to control the flight patterns of
the aircraft.
The fact that this "ball" is held in suspension, "not
one degree more", may indicate a
wsynchronic space platform capable
of pinpointing the exact location of the aircraft and possibly any
other counter measures/weapons, instantaneously calculating this data
and controlling the evasive actions taken by the aircraft during and
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following its bombing mission.
This system would not rely on
detection avoidance but rather on sophisticated long range detection
and guidance systems built into the aircraft as well as the "ball",
perhaps with the capability of taking over full control of the flight
patterns to maximize the survivability of the aircraft during evasive
actions.
This may account for Source's subsequent perceptions that
the Soviet model may havea bigber curviysbility quotient that the US
Stealth bomber during such evasive tactics.
5. (3/NF/SK)
COMMENTS: Source continues to provide very
interesting data all the more interesting when one considers that She
is a very "non-technically oriented" person with little or no
experience in aircraft design or airborne weapons systems. Future
sessions will continue to focus on the comparative nature of the both
aircraft.
SG1J
60-13, DAC
Interviewer
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Date :_
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Sanctuary: 1030
Session: 04
Target: 1032
Source: 079
Finish:
Coordinate:
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Frontload:
1 This will be The same target as the previous session but I will
provide You with some additional new tasking as this session
progresses.
2 YOUR WORK Thus far has been excellent is continue to Report in
The same manner and I will be satisfied.
Notes:
1 No Known or stated inclemencias
2 Weather -excellent 800, warm breeze- feels great
3 Room has been deodarized and has heavy perfume scent. Maybe
NIG WILL ASSIST IN Removal.
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SOURCE 079
20 AUG 87
WHEN I
WENT TO THE SECOND PLANE DURING THIS SESSION, I FELT
THAT I WAS IN A DENSER
AREA.
THERE WERE THICKER TREES AND
MOUNTAINS NEARBY.
IT WAS NOT A HEAVILY POPULATED AREA AND IT WAS
IN A RATHER REMOTE LOCATION.
THERE WAS A SECURITY AREA THAT WAS
SQUARE AND CONSISTED OF
SEVERAL FENCES.
THERE WAS A ROAD NEAR
THIS SECURE AREA.
I HAD A STRONG SENSE OF
A MILITARY PRESENCE.
I ALSO FELT THAT THIS PLANE WAS VERY WELL GUARDED.
ALTHOUGH THIS PLANE WAS BIG AND SMOOTH AND THICK LIKE THE
FIRST PLANE, I FELT THAT === WAS SMALLER.
ALSO,
THIS PLANE WAS
DARKER IN COLOR .:
Dispersant
THIS SECOND
PLANE DID
NOT HAVE THE FILTERING SYSTEM IN THE
BACK OF THE PLANE
LIKE THE
FIRST PLANE AND IT=DID NOT
HAVE A
JAMMING SYSTEM.
THIS SECOND PLANE WAS DARKER IN COLOR THAN THE
FIRST. I COULD NOT SEE MARKINGS ON THIS PLANE EITHER.
I FELT
THAT THIS PLANE TAKES PICTURES LIKE THE FIRST PLANE BUT IT WORKS
WITH AN OLDER SYSTEM,
THE FIRST PLANE
HAD NEWER
SYSTEMS TO IT.
SENSED THAT THIS PLANE DOES NOT FLY AS OFTEN AS THE FIRST
I ALSO
PLANE.
THE NOSE OF THIS PLANE WAS DIFFERENT.
WHEN THE LIGHT
EMITS FROM THIS PLANE, IT CRISS-CROSSES AND WHEN THE LIGHT EMITS
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FROM THE FIRST PLANE, IT IS MORE ENCOMPASSING.
ALSO,
THE WINGS
WERE A
LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ON THIS PLANE BUT DOES NOT MAKE MUCH
DIFFERENCE.
I FELT THAT BOTH PLANES OPERATED
THE SAME
IN THE
WAY THAT
THEY CAN LOCATE AND GATHER INFORMATION.
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I FELT
THAT THERE WAS A WEL FEL IN AN EXACT LOCATION, IN
AN EXACT DEGREE AND THIS ENABLED THE AIRCRAFT TO REACH OUT TO IT.
THIS
BALL
ROUND
WAS
AND
COULD
BREAK.
THIS BALL IS HELD IN
SUSPENSION AND HELD IN
PLACE.
THE AIRCRAFT
LOOKS AT
THE BALL
HEAD ON
AND THEN THE BALL IS TAKEN IN BY THE AIRCRAFT.
THE BALL
NEVER CHANGES BUT WHAT COMES OUT DOES.
I ALSO FELT THAT THIS SECOND
PLANE DOES
NOT HAVE
THE SAME
IMPACT AS
THE FIRST
PLANE.
ALTHOUGH BOTH PLANES DESTROY, THIS
SECOND PLANE IS ALWAYS. DETECTABLE.
THIS SECOND
PLANE FLIES HIGH
AND LOW BUT IT IS ALWAYS WITHIN "LINE OF SIGHT" OR YOU NEVER LOSE
: TS "RANGE OF VISIBILITY. "
ALSO, THIS PLANE HAS TO CIRCLE LONGER
BEFORE IT
LANDS.
THERE IS SOMETHING IN THE LANDING THAT CAUSES
THIS PLANE TO BE DETECTABLE.
ALSO,
IF
YOU WERE
CAUGHT BY THIS
SECOND PLANE,
YOU COULD
MANUEVER YOUR WAY OUT.
IT SEEMED TO ME
THAT WITH THIS SECOND PLANE,
A
GAME
PLAN
ALREADY
EXISTED AND
THERE ARE
COUNTER MEASURES
THAT EXIST
THAT COULD
HELP YOU OUT
AGAINST THIS
PLANE.
ALSO,
THIS
PLANE 'S
SCHEDULING
TIME IS
PREDICTABLE AND
THERE IS
NOT AN ATTEMPT TO HIDE OR CONCEAL THIS
PLANE LIKE THE FIRST.
AT THE VERY END OF THIS SESSION, I HAD THE FEELING THAT THIS
SECOND PLANE
IS SENSITIZED.
IT SEEMED AS THOUGH A SLIGHT TOUCH
OF THE FINGER COULD GENERATE THIS PLANE.
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IMPACT, THE IMPACT, THE OBJECT IS FLYING , MEN WORKING WITH IT ,
MEN ADDING ON, WORKING BEHIND THE PLANE, CONCERNED WITH
THE FEATURES, THE IMPACT IS THAT IT'S BIG , THE OBJECT IS
THICK,
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FOCUS AGAIN ON THE SURFACE
SMOOTH, THICK, WINGS, COME DOWN TO A POINT, IT FLIES AT
NIGHT, POWERFUL, VERY POWERFUL. FLIES UP. NOISY TAKE OF,
LOW NOISE RUMBLING,
PAUSE NOW- LISTEN TO ME - SmrEplace cese There is another
plane, NOT the same, but like this one, locate This other
plane and lows your attent un on This other aircraft and
use it to compare it to the FT plane.
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ITS IN DENSER AREA, NOT HEAVILY POPULATED, SOMEWHAT
REMATE, THICKER TREES, MOUNTAINous, GREEN GRASS. THERE IS
more security with This plane, more security. Three fences
Thick, A square are a, a road Right besine it. This place
Relies heavily on supplies being Flown into This area. This
has a more military feeling, much more uniforms, more
security, mme standardized, This one is guarded. Young
man grands it, a Boy, armed.
Focus Now on the aircraft
It's smaller than The first. The back and doesn't have
the filtering system. It's smooth and Thick .. Its locked.
TIC. TIC. TIC. TIC. TIC. YOU KNOW IT'S JUST NOT USED That
much. #I is USED more frequently. #2 NOT USED AS much.
it's older And It shows. I can't see markings on #2.
It's planck. Wings are similar, Very much alike But This
One doesn't have the " Jammer" #2 takes pictures But
it deals with an older system. Az is very good And it
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does A JOB But #I Is better. IT'S NOT AS Awesome AS
# 1. BEING USED TO TAKE pieces from #1. An Exchange
by pick-up Through the air -
These aircraft are far apart. They are not related.
only tell me about #2 As it compares to # 1
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#2 DOES not have the cleaning system. BACK end is
similar and The wings very much a like. ROTATing
motion here, The house is Different
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Describe
The nose has a round line And doesn't have the big
Light But it does have a light not as big. This light
CRISS CROSSes And goes out. The #1 light was all
encompassing. The Hoops/ loops Are There. #2 15 twins ...
This one has A sweeping affect. UPWARD, sweeping in,
A fast sweep up, The scanning not a new. This only
has me or two . The model for the sanning is older . This
one does not Run as smooth, Rocky, jerky, #I smoother
ride
Tell me about the surface
Hard, smooth, big, thick, The Wings might be a little
different but not that much .. It's theck, heavy, smooth,
balanced.
TELL me about Twins
way the
TWO, Similar, same, The aircraft can locate The way they
can find, so offer and gather, They are similar This way.
Something here is very centered for the aircraft to do its
JOB. a core. The placement of something in An exact location
not me Degree more and it enables the aircraft ato with
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It's Round , A big , It can break, held in suspension . It
is zooming, held in place
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Describe to me the way this enables the aircraft to do its for
IT lets the aircraft look at it head-on-Then it's taken
IN by the aircraft, by its light - Theres a strength. The
Circular motion on #2, singular, NOT as high powered and
only one. NOT as hugh powered. Rotating motion.
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stay with The device That lets the plane do its job-
For scouting, going out, gathers information, picture
taking, come back. The device like a ball, sometime
It's live. Something is shot from the ball. The ball never
changes but what comes out does.
A Raw Data
The Ball is in front of the plane. Being held, suspended.
The plane looks at it, can take directions from it. Pinpointing
This Ball moves, Rotates, spins. While the plane is moving This
Is In action, it works also.
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Pause - You told me #I moved like an animal. Undetected
Until toolate. Descubre #2
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ITS CIRcles more. Not as damaging. Pounces. Snatch.
Doesn't have the same impact. Same affed. Will leave an area
muchfaster. Long range not visible. Would have more chance
with This me . Heat . Both destroy a lot
I more of a chance raw data
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You could get out of the way, You could maneuver out
more easily with #2, #I can't get out of the way.
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Describe the reasons
#1 is bigger more powerful and covers bug, thick
wide range but would nt get away, #2 Better at
maneuvering - you could escape
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Describe The way to would pounce.
You would hear it coming. It's a little clumsy. IT would
enter from behind but detection would be faster. It is
planer, not as fancy but you could still detact it faster
Describe to me The method to direct
You could detect it from the line. You can see it. IT
would circle down in a wider area and would be
easy to detect because you see it and recognize it
for exactly what it is. IF you were caught you looked
know how to get out. You would be taught nine
like a game plan, already established, You would
not five, move out of the way moving strought of,
cutting yourself . almost laughing. #2 would no
hunt as much. #2 is established method. You would
Know when #2 is around" Scheduling is predictable.
always same time. not that many numbers', not That
many flights. Every six times.
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Scheduling antique
The men who enter it are military, This is all above
board, no hidry, no attempt to hide with # 2.
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A Secret part of #2
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Information That it gathers. It's type and moll are
bragged about. You can read about it. Maybe because They
don't know potentials, There's a big spread, I don't
Know what that means
I pause. #1 Flies very high then low but its too late
#2 flies high Then drops low but always in visible
range . always legal, IT circles are Thicker and you
can detect it tastes. It needs a bigger area to land.
$I is sharper and can cut its way Through. #2 can't
A Fly undetected
# I can fly undetected but # 2 can't. It tries but
can't.
Describe The reasons it can't
It can't cut its way through. Because of the way it
has to land. It will come from behind but needs a
bigger area to land . this one ( # 2) will never lose
The range of visibility. This one is established fact,
Knowing when and what to expect . # I is enough .
# 2 has plans on how to get out & attack, more of
a chance with # 2. No countering with # 1. #2 can
estique, AI, harder time on ne chance at all.
Parsing its in the flying air time.
A Pause - Focus on shape of #2
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Truck, pointed nose, wings very similar, back end
very similar, darker than #2 . Does not have " gaming"
The systems are older, marking not There .. no marking .
stripped down.
Sophisticated systems
older systems, picture taking, sweeping, but not as
nice, processing, information ovaly but not as new -
This one is powerful too, take of is very powerful -
# 4 clear up Fronts
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Knowing what to expect. This is hand. its very difficult.
There's a difficulty here. The nose in #2 is a little mine
buet up,
The difficulty
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I'm pulling back and forth between the #2 and #2. They're
not lined up the same. #2 has more roundness. Darker
In color, " Sensitive- slightly touch it moves it - very
Sensitive along the back , sensitizing - a touch will move at
generate
A generate
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generates, movement,
- Sensitive touch generates movement
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touching on the back generates a movement that goes
In the plane . It sways and helps do its work. Spooning
Up sweeping up. Bringing up, facery up. Starting up.
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