Project Interloper

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PROJECT SUN STREAK (U)
ERV SESSION PROCEDURES REPORT
WARNING NOTICE:
INTELLIGENCE SOURCES AND METHODS INVOLVED
CONTROL NUMBER: 8709
NICKNAME:
DATE OF SESSION: 28 Aug 87
TARGET COUNTRY: UR
REFERENCES: None
SESSION NUMBER: 05
DATE OF REPORT: 31 Aug 87
MISSION STATUS: Continuing
TECHNIQUE UTILIZED: ERV
SOURCE IDENTIFIER: 003
1.
(S/NF/SK)
INTERVIEWER TASKING:
Tasking as listed in the
previous sessions conducted with this Source on this project has not
been changed or re-directed.
This session was concerned with Chase.
III of the tasking package, the question of whether the technology of
the US Stealth system were used to develope the Soviet counterpart
and the methodology by which the Soviets were able to acquire that
technology.
If is it believed that the technology were acquired by
nefarious means, the Viewer is to be tasked to identify those means
to include specific personalities.
2.
(S/NF /SK)
SOURCE TASKING:
Source was told this was a
continuation of the last session and that He was to continue to focus
His attention on the unusually configured aircraft that He reported
on in His previous session.
He was further told that this session
would address another phase of the total tasking package but this
specific tasking would be provided during the actual session and not
during the session
pre-brief.
During the pre-brief Source was also
told that this session would be conducted utilizing the Extended
Remote Viewing (ERV) technology and not the Coordinate Remote Viewing
(CRV) technology of which He is more familiar.
During the session,
Source was provided the same encrypted coordinates as in all previous
sessions, 137500/112794, as per ERV protocols.
3.
(S/NF/SK)
INCLEMENCIES: There were no unusual occurrences or
anomalies which may have affected the data provided by the Source
during this session.
Source did not appear to suffer any distress or
misgivings about this session being conducted in the ERV mode and in
fact seemed to be eager to practice the emerging skills that He is
acquiring in the ERV technology.
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4.
(S/NF/SK)
SUMMARY:
Source furnished the attached summary which
was prepared following the session and submitted to the Interviewer
within 24 hours after the session.
The completeness of the
typewritten summary has been compared to the Interviewer's notes and
all omissions, changes, and/or corrections have been verified as
acceptable by the Interviewer.
The information provided in the
summary was found to be complete and did not require further
modification, clarification or additions by the Interviewer.
did provide some very detailed post-session sketches which are
attached to this report for reference purposes.
Source
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COMMENTS:
The Interviewer feels the need to go on
record by stating that the data obtained in this session may have
been driven in part or whole by the phenomena of Analytic Overlay
(AOL).
Out of necessity in facilitating the early response to the
specific questions addressed in the tasking, it became necessary to
phrase the questions utilized in the session in terms which were
somewhat unorthodox. The traditional limitations on the non-use of
specific interrogatives during a session were maintained to the
greatest extent possible, however it did become necessary to "load"
the concept of an illegal or unauthorized transfer of data in the
Sources mind enable to set the scene for His descriptives and
hopefully, accurate focusing on the concept.
In doing so, even
though the terminology was carefully couched in soft words such as,
"possibilities exist", "focus your attention on the possibilities"
etc., the Source may have formed a completed scenario in His more
conscious mind, driven by personal bias and suspected/expected facts
which carried over into the altered state of consciousness and were
delivered up as remote viewing data.
It cannot be stated with any
real assurance that this did nor did not happen, however the data
reported by the Source was notable for its "AOL" type terminology.
Additionally, the nature of the reporting during the session led the
Interviewer to caution the Source on at least one occasion to cease
labeling and analyzing the data and to report only His impressions.
Implied but not stated during the session was
the fact that Source's
tone of voice and use of complete sentences and paragraphs,
interlaced with "reminds me of", ""it's like?
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etc., tended to
alert the Interviewer to the fact that Source
was slipping back and
forth from an altered "right brain" state to the more analytic "left
brain" state.
The general impression of the early session, possibly
before AOL took over, is that the technology was indeed passed to the
Soviets by unauthorized means.
Other than this fact, the Interviewer
is reluctant to place any further credence or importance on the other
specific scenario related incident
incident.
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Aircraft no. 2 has a very sharp nose; there's something on
top of the tail, rod shape, going forward. The body of the
airplane is kind of "squished flat," one person flies it, and
there's some sort of forward sweep to the wings -- mostly slanting
backwards, but something goes forward, slanting.
The leading
edge of the wing is fat, rounded.
The seat the pilot is in can
come out, like some sort of ejection seat.
Crew compartment is
designed for function, not particularly for comfort or
appearance.
There is room for two, but it will work with just
one.
It's fairly narrow, cramped, lots of controls, instruments,
dials, red lettering.
Curved part comes up, opens up -- there's
lots of electronics here.
Caltitude test]
Numbers are high -- 67,000; 72,000; 84,000.
At altitude aircraft
handles very smooth, direct; but pilot can't make sharp moves.
You have to plan maneuvers far in advance -- long range.
You can't
force it to q6 higher because of major problems; it won't work
It's like it skips along the underside of a surface.
It
starts to fade or lose power when you try to go above a certain
point,
and drops back down under it.
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The design for no. 2 aircraft borrows form some other
source ,
Like they got their ideas from somewhere else,
plagiarized.
Much of it is not original; and there are gaps in
the information borrowed; also, the people who made #2 thought
they knew better than the original design .. They changed it to
fit their concepts, lessening the efficiency or effectiveness of
the technology they were adopting.
Information was derived from
papers, diagrams, books -- especially a large book, which may have
been obtained through some sort of negotiation process,
bartering.
It seems to have been offered by someone, in a suit.
He will Sell it or give it or something he can get out of it.
It's
like a product to him. Something to be marketed.
Negotiations, kept very private; the information comes from some
place -- perhaps his place of work -- but he is not supposed be using
the information the way he is. He is anxious, cautious, nervous;
he knows he could get in trouble, but sees it as a challenge,
exciting, a chance to "get over" and profit in the process.
People who are ultimately responsible for the data would be
upset, dismayed.
The "customers" were skeptical, cautious -- they
had to be convinced.
The person with the data had to talk them
into it, had to prove his validity. He knows what he has, and is
the persuasive type; he has to convince the others he is what he
says he is.
He's very verbal, likes to talk, glib, wants to
think he's important, and wants other to think the same.
He has
a round face, doesn't wear glasses, darker hair.
He has
legitimate access to information and can get more.
He's trusted
where he works with this information.
Where he works are papers spread out, people making marks,
looking at big books, using things to measure on the papers, to
make marks, and to change things. There are cabinets with lots
of drawers, things kept in order to be referred to.
Lots of
precision drawings; dividing things; fluorescent lights; cool ,
light colored room; windows; machines with something like a
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typewriter keyboard, only the machines are much bigger than
typewriters. Several people in the organization.
They go in and
out -- go elsewhere to work, to execute part of their
responsibilities.
This is like a reference place where people
come to check on things.
The man in question got the information
from this office, from the actual/official originals; he takes
some things and copies others.
Doesn't want anyone to know the
stuff is gone.
The people who rightfully "own" this stuff are
very jealous of it.
It's not altogether complete yet; new
developments, new shapes -- like things are in a state of flux, but
it's organized and there's a point to it -- its aimed at a cause.
As this applies to no. 2, it's like they had a basic picture
with some elaborate detail in some portions; but in the areas
where information was lacking, they tried to fill in the blanks
with their own interpolations and extrapolations; they tried to.
make the information fit into their own preconceptions:
"We know
what's best already. "
Any reverse flow from no. 2 to no. 1 is
minimal -- it's "like"
no.
1 already existed, and the only
application of Information from no. 2 to no. 1 would be to allow
no. 1 to address any threatening developments from no. 2.
It's
like they are competitors lined up against each other
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Project:
8709
Start: 0910
Date:
28 aug 87
Sanctuary: 0911?
Session:
06
Target:
0913
Source:
003
Finish:
Coordinate:
137500/112797
FIOL load: THIS will BE A RETURN TO THE THREET THAT DEALT WITH
THE AIRPLANES. TO BEGIN WITH I WANT YOU TO ACQUIRE THE SECOND
AIRPLANE AND BEGIN DESCRIBING IT TO ME. I will provide YOU Additional
TASKING AFTER THAT.
Notes:
1 GOOD WEATHER- HAZY, WARMING, Possible rain Later
2 No known OR stated INclemencies.
A: SPR03-09. # 06
(when 'i'led in)
Draft:
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$ 137500
/ 112794
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# 137500 /112794 .
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IT'S LONG, IT'S WINGS GO BACK, VERY SHARP NOSE, DARK, SOMETHING
ON TOP OF THE TAIL, ROD SHAPE GOING FORWARD , KINDA SQUISHED FLAT,
ONE PERSON FILLES IT, SOME SORT OF FORWARD SWEEP ON THE WINGS,
MOSTLY
BACKWARDS BUT SOMETHING GOES FORWARD, SLANTING LEADING
EDGE
OF WINE IS FAT, ROUNDED,
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TELL ME ABOUT THE CREW COMPARTMENT
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THE SEAT THE PILOT IS IN CAN COME OUT, LIKE EJECTION SEAT, DESIGNED
FOR FUNCTION NOT FOR COMFORT OR APPEARANCE. There's ROOM FOR two BUT
IT will WORK WITH JUST one. FAIRly NARROW, CRAMPED, LOT OF controls,
INSTRUMENTS, DIALS, RED LETTERING CURVED PART COMES UP, opens up,
LOTS OF ELECTRONICS HERE, THERE'S NOBODY here Right NOW -
- PaulE- FOCUS NOW ON A TIME WHEN THE PLANE IS CONDUCTING AN
ALTINDE TEST. STAY WITH THE PLANE UNTIL IT REACHES Its highest
capabilities . TELL ME THAT Height. You may Read the ALTIMETER
OR YOU MAY ASK THE PILOT,
IT HIGH - THREE Numbers 67,000 , 72,000, 84,000 .
-A TELL ME THE PILOTS PERCEPTIONS OF THE HANDLING OF THE
AIRCRAFT AT THESE ACTITUDES
VERY SMOOTH, DIRECT, BUT HE CAN'T MAKE SHARP MOVES,
You have To MAKE long Range manevers, like You CAN'T force It
To go higher because OF MAJOR PROBLEMS. IT won't work Right.
IT'S Like ITS UNDER A SURFACE AND BOUNCES AGAINST IT- THAT'S
NOT Really WHAT It does but it's like THAT. STAINS TO FADE OR LOVE
POWER WHEN YOU TRY TO GO ABOVE AND DROPS BACK DOWN.
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A PAUSE - YOU may leave This aircraft. THIS AIRCRAFT is VERY
similar to HI aircraft. THE Possibility ENOST There love That
information HI was USED To Build #2. This is only A possibility
Determine That possibility.
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#2 Borrows from some Source, much of it is NOT ORIGINAL
There are gaps in The information, The people who made #2
Thought They knew better than original design. They changed
It to fit their concepts, like They Ideas from somewhere
else, Like they borrowed or plagerized
A Focus now on the source of the information
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Papers, diagrams, books, a large book, lines and lines,
like a business negotiation, bartering,
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Stay with concept of borrowed information. Describe the
method of borrowing information.
Information was offered by someone, IN A suit. He will sell it
or give it for something he can get out it. It's like a product
to him. something to be marketed, Negotiations, Kepil vary
private, The information comes from someplace where he is not
suppose to have them. He is anxious cautious, nervous, he knows
he could get introuble, see's it as challenge, to get over, exciting,
a chance to get over and profit in The process - The people who
are responsible for the data he has would be upset, dis mayed,
I TELL me about this persons JOB
AOL
I keep getting flasher of D.c. Impressions of washington
monument -
I Pause - You are AOL - Return to concept of borrowing,
tell me the method arrived at #2
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K AOL
The information arrived (before There was a #7) People
were skeptical cautious they had to be convinced. The
person with The data had to talk Them into a little. Had
to prove his validity . He knows what he has . He is a
persuader type. He has to convince The others he is what
the Days. Very cautious.
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Describe This person.
V AOL
DARK suit, very verbal person likes to talk) wants to Think
he is important, wants other to Think Thist. Round face,
doesn't wear glasses, darker hair, gab, He has access
Legitimately & information and can get more, this trusted
Where he works with This information -
Tell me about his office
DEALS WITH (PAPERS, designing, problems
Pause, That's all analytic, describe the office
papers spread out, people making marks, looking at big
books, using Things to measure, make marks, change, cabinets,
Lots of drawers, things kept in order to be referred to. lots
of drawings, Dividing Things, drawings- florescent lights,
cool, light colored room, windows, machines cake typewriter
Keyboard but bigger - several people in the organization,
They go in and out - go elsewhere to work, part of Their
responsibilities, This is like a reference place where people
come to check on Things-
A Now tell me again about the borrowing
* This guy get the still here in his office, from actual /originals,
official, takes some Things and copics them, Doesn't want anyone
to Know The Stuff is some, people who own This stuff are very
fealivs of it. It's not complete yet, New developments, new shoes.
Daut & it - it
- its aimed at a cause.
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Tell me the results of This data ON #2
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like you drew a bug outune of an airplane on
butcher paper and Then tried to fill in the blanks with
This information. They did it wrong. They had pre conceived
notions and traced to make the information fit into their
notions. They tried to extrapolate, to guess al, They had
There own pre conceptions, mis conceptions -" we know
what's beat
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Describe The possibility of Data from #2 being used in Hal.
It's like I already existed. IF anything about #2 is
known it might be incorporated after the fact but only to
make it easier to counter #2. Its wie These two are
Rivals, competitors, lined up against each other -
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