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IAFM-OPS-FU-SA
16 Nov 1979
MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SG11
SUBJECT :
Visit of
15 Nov 1979 (U)
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1. (U)
Purpose: To outline the significant points of the visit of
to this office on 15 Nov 79.
2.
(U)
Permission for the visit had been approved by COL Capps, OACSI.
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3.
(S)
visit was designed to provide him with an update
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concerning the INSCOM GRILL FLAME Program.
had been one of
CIA's action officers in the early 70's in the field of parapsychology
(especially Remote Viewing) and although CIA has not had an active
program in recent years
has been permitted by the agency to
keep himself fully informed on the latest developments in the field as
involved the U.S. Government.
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4.
(S)
We spent the better part of the day discussing the INSCOM
program. Especially interesting was to receive first-hand insight into
some of the problems that
and CIA faced in the 70's because
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of their involvement in parapsychology.
noted that his
credibility is still an issue with some folks, even some of his co-workers,
because it was decided that he was a "believer." He cautioned me that in
the days ahead that my credibility and those involved in our program would
become more of a critical issue. He saw no way to prevent it but cer-
tainly felt that we should be aware that the issue could become a serious
one.
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5.
(U)
asked permission to brief those in his chain-of-
command concerning today's meeting.
I denied his request based on prior
ACSI guidance and informed him that only
were cleared for GRILL FLAME data at CIA as far as I knew.
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6.
(U)
then asked about the feasibility of the INSCOM brief-
ing being given to his superiors. I informed him that I had no
objections to his proposal but that he would have to send a message to
ACSI requesting approval. He indicated that he would do so.
CLASSIFIED BY: Director, DIA
DECLASSIFY ON: 16 Nov 1999
EXTENDED BY: Director, DIA
REASON: 2-301-C
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SG11
16 Nov 1979
SUBJECT:
Visit of
15 Nov 1979 (U)
7.
(S)
We informally agreed that I would visit him in the near future
to review a study that CIA had accomplished concerning their prior in-
volvement in remote viewing sessions. The study contains a proposed
method/protocol of conducting remote viewing sessions that could be
very useful.
8. (U)
All agreed that the meeting was beneficial to all parties.
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MURRAY B. WATT
LTC, MI
INSCOM GRILL FLAME
Project Manager
NOTED
CHAD B. WHITE
COL, GS
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