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MEMORANDUM FOR RECORD
SUBJECT:
Minutes of the Grill Flame Committee Meeting, 14 Feb 79 (U)
1. (U)
The Grill Flame Committee meeting was held at 0930, 14 Feb 79.
2.
(U)
Attendees :
Dr. Vorona, DIA
SG11
MAJ Stoner, ACSI
Mr. Kramar, AMSAA
COL De Prospero, AMSAA
Mr. Graff, AF' FTD
SG11
MAJ Watt, INSCOM
Mr. Green, MIRADCOM
Mr. Dailey, USDRE
3. (U) As a result of discussion on access to GRILL FLAME information,
a master list of Grill Flame Committee representatives was established
(Incl 1). All information should be sent through agreed-upon security chan-
nels to these representatives; secondary distribution in each organization
is to be determined by that organization.
4. (U) The goals and objectives of the committee as agreed to by the
attendees are attached as Incl 2.
5.
(S-ORCON)
Dr. Vorona reviewed the briefings presented to the House
Select Committee on Intelligence on 13 Feb 79 by himself and Hal Puthoff
and Russ Targ of SRI as well as the discussions that followed. One of
the primary concerns is the level of funding for SRI. Up through 31 March
1979, the following monies have been allocated:
$100K from FTD
$115K from AMSAA
$ 20K from DIA
Beginning 1 April 1979, the following monies are proposed for allocation
to SRI:
SG11
$ 35K
$75 to $100K
MIA
$ 50K
DIA
$100K
AMSAA
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$ 75K
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Congressman Rose recognized the critical financial situation of the SRI
program. In response to Congressman Rose's inquiry as to what the Com-
mittee could do, Dr. Vorona commented that a strong letter to DoD should
remove the reluctance of some people to deal with the subject of psycho-
energetics.
6. (S-ORCON) In addition to further discussions of optimum funding
levels for SRI (400-500K/year), other outside sources of the capability
as well as ongoing and proposed in-house programs were discussed.
7. (U)
It was suggested that the next meeting of the Grill Flame Com-
mittee be scheduled for the end of March 79.
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GRILL FLAME COMMITTEE REPRESENTATIVES
MIA
Primary:
Randy Clinton
Alternate:
Charles Carter
ARMY ACSI
Primary:
MAJ Bill Stoner
Alternate:
COL Jack Capps
AMSAA
Primary:
John Kramar
Alternate:
COL Albert De Prospero
SG11
FTD
Primary:
Dale Graff
USDRE
Primary:
Dr. Ruth Davis
Alternate:
Lowell Dailey
Navy
SG11
Primary:
Dr. Bill Mehuron
INSCOM
Primary:
MAJ Scott Watt
Alternate:
ILT Fred Atwater
AIR STAFF
Primary:
LTC Michael Bloom
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(S-ORCON) PROPOSED GOALS FOR THE GRILL FLAME PROGRAM (U)
Scientifically investigate accepted potential military aspects
of psychoenergetic phenomena. This would include remote viewing, com-
munications and psychokinetic modes. These efforts would involve only
willing and knowing participants and would exclude the use of drugs,
hypnosis or other artificial forms to alter mental states.
Develop suitable scientific experiments and evaluation metho-
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dologies for conducting and assessing the results of these investigations.
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Investigate significance of foreign technical and military psycho-
energetic efforts, assess potential threat posed by these developments
and identify countermeasures.
(S-ORCON)
The Working Group will:
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Respond to approved requests for information on psychoenergetics.
@ Act as a clearinghouse for exchange of information and tech-
nologies among DoD participants.
· Appoint a subcommittee to monitor protocols and ensure compliance
with the legal aspects of the program.
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