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MEMORANDUM FOR RECORD
SUBJECT :
CENTER LANE Interview Summary CL-1012/8304/08 (U)
1. (S/NOFORN)
On 280900 April 1983, source #08 was interviewed by
#66 concerning the events and personalities mentioned in a letter.
The project 8304 sponsor had provided a copy of a hand printed letter
which had been received as unsolicited correspondence (see Incl 1) .
2.
(S/CL-3/NOFORN)
For
this
interview source was provided the
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3. (U)
A transcript of the interview was perpared including a
narrative description of the drawings which source provided (see Incl
2) .
4. (U) A DA Form 341 (Agent Report) was prepared for sponsor. This
report related the salient points of the interview. Attached as an
exhibit to the Agent Report was a copy of source's drawings (see Incl
3) .
3 :
Incl
as
Freders H. Twee
FREDERICK H ATWATER
CPT, MI
OPS/TNG Officer
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# 66:
This will be a CENTER LANE Interview for 0900 hours
28 April 1983.
Relax and concentrate now.
Relax
and focus your attention on the area
SG1A
Focus on this area in the present time and describe
it to me.
SG1A
#08:
#66:
Give me about 30 more seconds and read them off
again.
PAUSE
#08:
All that I have is a .... is a. . shore line with water
on the right and a ... (mumble) and vegetation on the
left.
# 66:
All right.
Find for me a recognizable geographic
feature so that I can move you from this point.
#08:
. Moving closer in .. into the vegetation
area, the green area is a .... road ... It's in a type
of ... and ... there's an impression here also of a,
this area being very flat.
#66:
Move down the road.
# 08:
... Going
to the .... (mumble) portion of the
road ..... Yes, it's about .... There's a point on the
road with a brick building which is about ... 30, 35
miles
north
of
the
city, ... a very
sunny,
warm ... seeing it's very sunny, warm climate.
#66:
Okay .
You seem to be in the right location. I'd
like to read you this specific coordinates again
and see if we can't get a more specific location in
this neighborhood.
#08:
It's all right.
SG1A
#66:
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#08:
. .
. . Okay, there's a .. a very quick impression of a
tower
what is it now .... the lights .. like it's in
plexigrass or something.
You can't see inside but
from inside you can see out.
# 66:
Describe the immediate surroundings.
# 08:
. Very
wide road ..... It's as wide as an
.
airstrip, but there's no traffic there.
#66:
Okay, from --
#08:
And this leads to, leads to ..... Building ... few
miles away, 5 or 6 miles ... The main activity of the
building
is a ... control center ... there's an
extensive series of buildings .... all of them built
for the same purpose.
# 66:
From this location, from where you are right now,
move west two and a half miles and describe.
Move
to the west two and a half miles and describe.
#08:
. It's a ... a white dome .... is a ... white dome
supported by
a ... a ... relatively strong but
small .. I want to say angle lines, but they're not
angle lines, they're steel studs.
#66:
Describe the area surrounding this.
#08:
..
. The a. . there are several roads with the
spoke like fashion that lead to the, .. leading to
the dome.
The dome is a ... to the north of the
dome .. about 2 miles north of the dome, there's a
road about (mumble), ... east of the dome is another
road, ... small road .... secondary highways is what
they are. . (mumble) .
#66:
Okay, from this location, from where you are now, I
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#08:
# 66:
All right.
Now describe this intersection to me.
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#08:
. They're taking the bearing north and south
and east and west.
The eastern section of the
intersection is the .. long, low level, a storage
type building.
To
the west and closer to the
intersection
is
a .... (mumble,
mumble)
store .... (mumble)
in
the .... And
the
south ... east ... section .. there is (mumble, mumble,
mumble) facility of level rectangular, a small
building that I can't make out what it is.
And
a .. south, west portion I see .. a .. the fences and
grass and pasture land, that's what I see.
# 66:
Okay.
Fixing yourself at
this
intersection,
describe the activity right now
intersection.
today at this
#08:
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This road is narrow and become much wider
north
and
south
and. . much
more
active ... seeing ... four .. four lanes or more of ... and
the main road the a ... a great deal more of
a. . traffic activity.
And there was a ... was a
(mumble) ... of a .. a flat bed trailer truck.
#66:
Okay.
Other --
#08:
And --
# 66:
Other than the vehicular traffic, what do the sides
of the intersection look like, are there sidewalks
and street signs or bus stop benches, what does it
look like, other than the traffic that there?
Describe it to me.
#08:
.
.The heavy traffic is north to south.
. .
#66:
That's correct.
#08:
-- The pedestrian ... activity is in .. the ... a western
part of
the
secondary road
and ... and
all
specifically interested in.
#66:
All
right.
I'd like to move now in time, but
holding on this intersection.
# 08:
Yes.
SG1A
# 66:
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intersection.
Within that time period, we are
interested
in one particular
occurrence, event,
happening, activity.
#08:
Yes, it has to do with the big tank ... a.big tank,
or a huge container.
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#66:
describe your
perception to me.
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#08:
. Okay .... There are two things came to pass ....
forget that ... Something about a .. bundle or a light
package .. in the .. in the .. southwestern corner of the
highway .... Bundle wrapped ... in .. light paper .. and
tied in .... tape ... My direction, my direction is
focused on that .. bundle.
The first impression, I
want to say because it's bothering me about
a
multiple accident, but it's a bundle that attracted
my attention.
#66:
All right. Let me see if I understand what you're
trying to tell me.
There were two things of
importance, one of which was an accident and the
other which was the bundle?
#08:
Yes.
#66:
All right.
Tell me about the bundle.
#08:
The bundle
is
sealed.
The bundle is wrapped
in .. the paper, the bundle ...
# 66:
What's happening with the bundle?
#08:
Just lying there
....
#66:
Watch the bundle and see what happens with it.
#08:
The bundle is .. the bundle is made of books ... soft
covered
books ... the
size
is .. 8
X
10 ........
.
. (mumble ) .
The impression now is of
a .. local having picked up the bundle and taking off
with
it, the local .... went about 3 miles
in
southwest area of the (mumble) .. .. Yeah, a country
poke, I guess .... The a ... impression of a .. somewhat
rundown, small house with a
roof overhang
.
(mumble), help me out.
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# 66:
Focus on the bundle and tell me what happens with
the bundle.
#08:
They brought it to that house.
. .
# 66:
And?
#08:
It was opened and ... I think the
individual is confused and amazed .. and this has
lasted for some time ..... You want to pursue this
bundle?
#66:
Yes.
Tell me about what's in the bundle and what
this guy does with it.
#08:
They open them. . and. . they
were
a bunch of
a ... accountable 8 x 10 ... printed material .. about ..
each book with about ... and less than a half inch
and a little more than a quarter inch thick.
I
see
white and red covers and some dark ... dark type
emblem.
#66:
All right.
Now what it is, tell me more about what
he does with these things in the bundle.
#08:
Okay.
. The
a ... in
his
confusion
and
amazement, he then transferred the bundle to the
bottom on a deep container about a four foot
container, wood .. and covered the ... the contents
of the booklets with a ..... some other material.
They're putting the ... the booklet and .. and the
material in the barrel.
# 66:
All right.
#08:
There's a layer of ... maybe paper or canvas
You want anything more?
#66:
Yes.
Looking first at the
bundle as it's
unwrapped, be very careful
here that I'm not
suggesting anything to you, but do you have the
opinion that these are originals or copies?
# 08:
That's. .. the ... the ... impression is one of newly
printed material.
#66:
Newly printed in that they haven't been circulated
and used?
#08:
Fresh off the press type stuff.
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# 66:
Fresh off the press type thing, okay.
Now move
further back through this incident
to
the
intersection again with the bundle sitting there at
the intersection --
#08:
Yeah --
#66:
-- And move back further again and tell me how it
arrived at the intersection.
#08:
It rolled into the, boy, going to backtrack this
stuff, ........ It was thrown there ... it came from a
vehicle ... this
is going to be overlay here
because .. but I'll say it anyway. The impression
is one of being thrown from a passing vehicle ...
Why don't, .. I, we can continue this some other time
now.
# 66:
All right.
#08:
When I go back to this stuff.
#66:
All right.
I have one other thing I require and
then I know you're getting tired.
# 08:
I understand.
# 66:
Give me a police like description of the man who
picks up the bundle and later opens it.
#08:
Yeah, ... about 5'8", 5'10", very country attitude,
medium built, black. . . un ... black uncombed hair, a
slight receding hairline. Also an impression of
a .. of a .... overalls with the suspenders, (mumble)
about, little heavy for his height, with a slight
paunch.
...
That's about it, I .. . that's it.
#66:
Okay.
Now if he took them to a place that is about
3 miles south?
#08:
Took them to the house.
#66:
All right.
If you had to --
#08:
A mile and a half south --
#66:
Pardon?
#08:
About a mile and a half to the south.
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# 66:
Okay, if I had to find this house, what would be
the one way, the one identifying thing, the one
best way that I could find this house.
# 08:
The house was blue or white, because it's been
painted.
There's a wreck, there's a wrecked
car .. or
the remnants of a wrecked car in the
area .. Think it kinda looks like an old Chevy '51 or
something,
black ... And the porch overhang is a
significant,
recognizable ... It's
typical little
country . . house.
# 66:
Okay. Now how do you feel about describing the car
and the individual who threw the packet out of the
car?
# 08:
Your're pushing it fella'.
#66:
Okay. We'll come back to this and go for that a
little later.
#08:
All right.
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#08:
Okay, sketch #1, which entitled highway is the area
that was of interest, with a multi lane highway
going from north to south and a secondary road from
east to west and I've annotated the location of the
perceived man made objects that were encountered
throughout, through the session, to include an
outdoor storage shed in the northeastern portion of
this sketch.
And a country store, gas station type
in the northwestern portion of the sketch.
The
thing I have sketched here which I had to when I
"Xed" the spot for the bundle was that indeed this
crossing of highways was not as angular at 90
degrees as it appears here. It was more of a
rounded slant to it, it wasn't a perfect 90 degrees.
# 66:
Okay.
#08:
Okay. And going back and thinking of where I had
seen the bundle, it was a round corner, in this area
here, between the two "Xs", is really where it was.
Okay. Then I tried to identify the small farmhouse
in question, which about, I forget what I said, 3
miles, mile and half, I get confused here, from the
location on the same road. If I follow that main
highway, that multiple highway, going south there is
a
slight curve to
the highway
after
the
intersection, within about a mile, mile and half.
And that house is located next to the highway
there.
That's a driveway, by the way.
#08:
Okay, sketch #2 which I've entitled house is an
attempt to describe the house of interest, which
looks like an old small country home with front
a ... with a front screen door.
House has a step of
about 3 or 4 steps and it is off the ground be about
a foot and a half, two feet on pillars, with an "A"
roof.
And one of the identifying factors is that it
has a sloping front overhang to the house, which
forms a porch type approach to the house.
And
looking for additional identifiable landmarks
I
perceived, perceived the remnants
of a wrecked
automobile. It could be anything, but something
like, definitely black automobile.
Something that
reminds me of a 49 or a 51 Chevy.
# 66:
It was an abandoned automobile as it were?
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#08:
Yea.
#66:
It just sits around in the yard.
#08:
Yeah, like someone drove 220,000 miles and just left
it there.
#66:
Okay.
Now tell me a little bit about this guy and
his discovery of this bundle and then a ---
# 08:
I think the guy is a local, I think I tried to
emphasize that, the impression of a, lack of a
better expression, the local yokel who happens to
inadvertently trip on the bundle in question and
takes it home and has, is completely confused and
amazed at what he has and really doesn't know what
to do with it. And realizes that it's of some
importance, doesn't fully realize, but suspects that
it has some value and there's problems to translate
that value into something gainful, which he may,
which I do not know if he persisted in that effort.
And what did he, explain to me again what he did do
with the documents.
# 66:
# 08:
The documents were unwrapped in the front portion of
the building or the front room of the house and were
subsequently placed in a container in the back room
of the house, which appeared to me like a wooden
barrel about 3 or 4 feet high and the documents in
question were placed there, layered with a heavy
piece material, either cloth canvas or very heavy
brown paper and then filled with other extraneous
material.
#66:
So they then would then wind up at the bottom of
this
#08:
this barrel.
# 66:
-- wooden type barrel.
#08:
Yea, barrel, bin whatever you want to call it.
#66:
Barrel will be okay.
Anything else you'd like to
add?
#08:
No.
#66:
Okay.
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AGENT REPORT
For use of this form, see FM 30-17(C); AR 381-20; the proponent agency is the Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff for Intelligence.
1. NAME OF SUBJECT OR TITLE OF INCIDENT
2. DATE SUBMITTED
3. CONTROL SYMBOL OR FILE NUMBER
CL-1012/8304/08
4. REPORT OF FINDINGS
UNSOLICITED LETTER
On 28 April 1983, Source CL-08 was interviewed concerning
the events and personalities mentioned in a letter received
as unsolicited correspondence.
Source described two events
SG1A
The first event was a vehicular accident at or near this
intersection
SG1A
The second event described was an exchange of documents
at this intersection
Source stated
that a "bundle" was thrown from a car and retrieved by an
individual who appeared to be from the local area. Source
described this bundle as: sealed, wrapped in paper,
containing accountable, soft covered, printed material
approxmately eight by ten inches in size and one fourth to
one half inch thick (not further identified). The covers of
these documents appeared to be white and red with a dark
emblem.
This material was described as being newly printed
material.
SG1A
Source
described
the
individual who retrieved this
bundle as:
male
5'8" to 5'10"
medium build ( "a little heavy for his height,
with a slight paunch)
black uncombed hair
Source stated that this individual (not further identified)
may be associated in some way (not further identified) with
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4. REPORT OF FINDINGS
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2. DATE SUBMITTED
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CL-1012/8304/08
an old "farmhouse" (Sketch 2) about one and one half miles
south of the intersection.
This house had an old "49 or 51
Chevy" parked in the left front yard.
Further
attempts to obtain information
from
Source
SG1A
relevant to the letter met with negative results.
The above described house fits the description of a
house located at
The house at
also has an old (early fifties)
SG1A
Chevy parked in the left
front yard.
The house is
approximately one and one
half
miles south
of the
intersection in question.
Information reported by
Source may be accurate in its
chronological sequence
e but
inaccurate
in the specific
date/time referenced.
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