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INTERVIEW
66:
This will be a CENTER LANE interview for 6 January 1983. The time
is 1000 hours. Focus your attention now on the building in the
photograph I have shown you. As you do, move your awareness to
the inside and describe the activities in the interior of this building
to me.
08:
The top floor, .. higher stories ... in the right wing, right front and
extending to the right wing ... as if a ... what I see there is a ... computer
type console, with a bunch of little bulbs ... There's a diversification
for their use. There's a. .. heavy impression about ... the weather,
meteorology ... This kind of bugs me, so I got to say it. This
is a. . east, the building is in the east, ... east European country.
It's a ... there's a heavy soviet financial sponsorshop.
There's
a token soviet presence. With the entire operation's run by. . the
nationals of the country, with a --
66:
08:
66:
Describe the interior areas of the building to me.
There's a middle .. midsection of the right front wing are classes,
classroom.
Describe the impression which makes you say classrooms.
08:
Oh, open windows, conference type things, pointers, .. glass
inclosures, like a place where series are discussed and before being
put into practice in some other section of the building ... It's
instructional, but it's not a college or an institute, it's not even
university type .. It's. . The scientists .. giving or
receiving knowledge and applying that knowledge .. experiment type ..
atmosphere ... to do research, applied sciences I thinks.
66:
Move through the building and describe the areas of the building
and the activity in those areas, to me.
08:
I see ... , this is too vast for me to call at one time, ... the first
floor's right front is an impression of a lot of glass ...
tubes and weird shaped bottles, associated with chemistry or
something.
66:
Okay, move to other areas and describe briefly other: areas of
the building.
08:
Above that is administration, above that classrooms, conference
rooms and above that the electronic gear, computer type electronic
gear, that's the right front.
66:
Decribe areas to the left, to the left wing of the building.
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08:
That left wing, left front, the general impresssion is that this
is .... it has a school atmosphere, a mixture of school and
government an administrative offices. Although .. there's a
continuation of the same impression. . that the very top floor's
are still dedicated to research and stuff, although it's dimmer
there.
66:
Describe for me the activity on the top floor's left wing.
08:
It's a very somber place ... Something about heavy, dark curtains
and shields ... like --
66:
Describe the impression that makes you say this.
08:
It's energy activity that can, .. can hurt people if it's not
shielded. Has to do with high energy vibrations if you wish.
66:
Describe the impression that makes you say this about that image.
08:
It's like. .. the area of concern ... It has to do with high energy
... frequencies .... It's the somber atmosphere and the heavy
curtains, and the protection. They're related to high energy
frequencies.
66:
Now, from the top floor, left side, move to the top floor,
extreme right wing and describe the top floor, extreme right wing,
activity and locations.
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08:
By comparison, this is a research area, but it's primitive.
Impression is one of old .. telephones, earphones and wires that are
brown covered, wires that were used before the coil wire for
telephones. It's as if it were a basic course .. in electricity and
communications or something.
66:
Okay, now the floor just beneath the tpp floor, just under that one,
describe the activity of that one.
08:
Classrooms.
66:
Classrooms is a label, describe the room to me.
08:
Older professors instructing ... college type students there, in
basic electricity and electronics, .. just classroom.
66:
Okay. In this side of the building begfore, you mentioned you
thought you had an area of computers. From where you are now in
which direction is this room?
08:
The computers are in the, right front, facing the street, those directions
we agreed upon.
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66:
All right. I have no further questions. I'd like now to allow
you a few moments to explore this building and comment as you
see fit. Do so now.
08:
This is a self sustaining building here, .. about three or four
cafeterias. There are quarters. It's a real mixture .. of an ..
administrative kind of bureaucracy, ... school instructions, from
great sophistication to very basic things ... A wide range of
undertaking from most basic courses to highly sophisticated R&D
type stuff going. I don't have anything more.
66:
All right, fine, thank you.
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DRAWING EXPLANATION
08:
To give perspective to areas of the building mentioned in the
session, we agreed that that portion of the building facing the
street or road would be the front which is separated as
in the picture by a gap in the right portion of the front of
the building. So the computer area that I'm talking about is in
the front right wing, which I've so labeled. The dark somber
area, with the gray and black curtains in protection afforded
against high energy emitting things, is in the left front wing of the
building. The area labeled right wing which is 90 degrees
or adjacent to the front right wing is, where the basic courses in basic
electronics and electricity were being given. I sort of glanced
at the rear portion of the building and got a quick impression
of quarters for staff and faculty there, but I didn't really
look at that too intensely. It was just a passing impression.
I really did not
study that area too well, but there were, I
had the impression there were quarters for faculty and staff there.
I think the other stuff is pretty self explanatory. I did not go
to the left wing, extreme left wing, at least I don't recall going
to the extreme left wing.
66:
Okay. Why don't you kind of put a either brackets or big circle and
put area not explored or something like that.
08:
Okay. That's all I have unless you have some questions.
66:
Okay. That's fine. Thank you much.
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Man ROAD /STREET
RXD HIGH ENERGY
RESEARCH
AREA
COMPUTER - AREA
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FRONT RIGHT
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AGENT REPORT
For use of this form, see FM 30-17(C); AR 381-130; the proponent agency is the Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff for Intelligence.
1. NAME OF SUBJECT OR TITLE OF INCIDENT
2. DATE SUBMITTED
SG1A
3. CONTROL SYMBOL OR FILE NUMBER
CL-989/8210/08
SG1A
SG1A
4. REPORT OF FINDINGS
On 6 January 1983, Source CL-08 was interviewed concerning
Source stated substantially as follows:
Source described the interior of the building which he felt was in an
east European country. Source reported that the building had a heavy
Soviet financial sponsorship, token Soviet presence, and that nationals of
the country ran the entire operation. Source stated that this was a self
sustaining building with about three or four cafeterias and quarters.
Source stated that this building had a real mixture of an administrative
kind of bureaucracy; school instructions, from great sophistication to
the very basic and a wide range of undertaking, from the most basic
courses to highly sophisticated research and development.
The left Front Wing had a school atmosphere, a mixture of school,
government, and administrative offices. The very top floor, however, was
dedicated to some sort of high energy research. This research activity
required shielding to protect personnel. The research had to do with high
energy vibrations or frequencies. This area was described as being a very
somber place.
The Front Right Wing first floor was an area in which there were many
glass tubes and "weird shaped" bottles, associated with chemistry or some
other unknown.
Above this first floor was an administration area. Above
the administration area were classrooms and/or conference rooms. In this
area discussions were held concerning activities to be conducted in some
other section of the building.
In this area scientists were exchanging
knowledge and applying that knowledge in an experiment type atmosphere to
do research. Source thought this area to be involved in applied sciences.
Above the classroom/conference room area was an area which contained
electronic equipment to include computer type electronic equipment. The
computer type console was described as having a front with multiple light
bulbs.
Source did not describe the Left Wing of the building and no further
amplifying information was obtained from Source during this interview.
Attached hereto is EXHIBIT I, a drawing provided by Source concerning
the areas described above.
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EXHIBIT I:
Drawing
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DE DETEN ROAD /STREET
R+D HIGH ENERGY
RESEARCH
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COMPUTER - AREA
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LEFT FRONT WING
FRONT RIGHT
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