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Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R001100270001-1
12 April 1982
MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT: Briefing for Mr. Doug Olin (U)
1. (FOUO) On 5 April 1982, from 1000-1300 hours. Mr. Doug Olin, Office
Management and Budget (OMB) was briefed on the INSCOM GRILL FLAME Program
at Building T-2561, Fort Meade. Briefing was arranged by LTC Jordan.
Attending were:
SG11
COL BILLY MILLER
ADCSOPS-HUMINT, INSCOM
IC STAFF
LTC CARL JORDAN
OACSI (ISH)
MR. CRAIG MILLER
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OACSI (ISH)
2. (U) Briefing covered the topics listed below:
a.(U Brief overview of INSCOM's organizational structure and where
GRILL FLAME fits in (COL Miller).
b. (U) History of the INSCOM program (LTC Jachim).
c. (U)
Differences in DIA and INSCOM role in the program (LTC Jachim).
d. (U) Presentation of evaluated projects (CW2 McMoneagle).
e. (C) Presentation of completed but unevaluated projects
(CPT's Cowart and McNear).
3. (S/NOFORN) During the presentations specifics concerning R&D into
parapsychology, methodology targeting and interview techniques were addressed
to CPT Atwater.
4. (FOUO) Mr. Olin can be classified as an honest skeptic. He indicated
he had no problem with the subject matter or INSCOM's involvement. Mr. Olin
dip state some of his associates did think that an R&D effort was a more
appropriate approach. Mr. Olin stated that while he could not do much in the
current (FY83) problem, he would provide support for FY 84 and beyond. He
considered the level of activity "appropriate" as it now existed and in the
projections for FY83 and beyond. Mr. Olin offered his recommendation to
LTC Jordan that in the current reclama to Congressional action, some senior
Army personnel should get involved.
R. Joachim
3 Incl
1. SUMM's (2 pgs)
2. INSCOM Hstry
3. DIA/INSCOM Roles
ROBERT J. JACHIM
LTC, MI
GRILL FLAME PROJECT MANAGER
GRILL, FLAME
NOT RELEASABLE TO FOREIGN NATIONALS
Approved For Release 2000/08/07 : CIA-RDP96-00788R001100270001-1