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GRILL FLAME
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SESSION REPORT
CLASSIFIED BY:MSG,DAMI-ISH
DATED: 051630ZJUL78
REVIEW ON: Oct 2000
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SUMMARY ANALYSIS
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION D-66
1. (S/NOFORN) This report documents a remote viewing session conducted in
compliance with a request from SOD, 33, OJCS, Pentagon, Washington, DC.
The purpose of the session was to provide information relevant to the
hostage situation in Iran.
2. (S/NOFORN)
The remote viewer's impressions of the target are provided
as raw intelligence data, and, as such, have not been subjected to any
intermediate analysis, evaluation or collation. Interpretation and use of
the information provided is the responsibility of the requestor.
3. (S/NOFORN)
The protocol used for this session is detailed in the document
Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol (S), undated.
4.
(S/NOFORN) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions during
the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by the remote viewer
reference his impressions of the target site. At TAB B is target cuing
information provided the remote viewer.
5. (S/NOFORN) The viewer was asked to locate Thomas L. Ahern and describe
his location.
The viewer reported Ahern as being located in a multi-story
building, possibly in Teheran, Iran, with five other hostage personnel (not
further identified). The viewer felt that the rooms were hotel like, or more
exclusive, similar to efficiency apartments. Hostage and guard positions are
indicated on drawing #4.
6.
(S/NOFORN)
This session was conducted concurrently with session D-65.
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION D-66
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#66:
This will be a remote viewing session for 1030 hours,
.91 October 1980.
Relax and concentrate now, relax and focus your attention on
Thomas Ahern, whose photograph I have shown you. Locate Thomas
Ahern at the present time, locate Thomas Ahern at the present
time. Move your awareness to his location now and describe
his surroundings to me.
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#01:
Light blue walls. Very regular furniture like a hotel room.
Bed, dresser drawers, small desk ... wood floor.
#66:
I didn't understand.
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#01:
I got a wood floor.
Wide boards.
Metal door
Saw a flat roof on the building.
PAUSE
#66:
Describe Ahern himself at present.
#01:
Ah ... he is reading, sitting by a lamp and he is reading.
#66:
Is he alone?
#01:
He is all alone. There's, ah ... other rooms with other hostages.
#66:
What is it that you are sensing that makes you say this?
#01:
's like a row of rooms all identical, all the same room,
make in layout. Corridor .. . rooms on both sides, it's like three
loors and there is a cement grill or a cement grill design.
#66:
On which floor are these hostage rooms?
#01:
Second floor.
#66:
Describe the number of hostages.
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#01:
Ah ... just a minute.
..
( .... Six.
The building is wing shaped,
it's like a wing.
There is some kind of a grill pattern in
the cement.
#66:
Describe the location of this grill pattern.
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It's all on one side of the facing wing, it's vertical, there
is, ah ... ah ... cover of ... cover of canvas on the other side of
the wing ... more like a porch. It's like, ah ... yellow building,
the building is yellow. There's a parking area, two inter-
secting walls by the other wing, by the other part of the wing.
#66:
Remember all that you are perceiving so that you might draw
it for me later. Reaccess the area of the hostages and des-
cribe the guard) force situation at this time.
#01:
Ah. . (two in the interior hallway.
#66:
What floor?
#01:
Just a minute.
There is one on a landing, open sided
landing, with a low wall ... goes by it and steps. And there is,
ah.
There is more people on the ground floor but there
is only one of them that is armed, he is like inside of the
door.
There is just stairs.
#66:
All right. Move over the building now and describe the sur-
rounding area.
#01:
Wait ... winged going end ... ah ... intersecting "T" shaped paved
area with an adjoining walls. There is a tree garden area
facing the walls. Parking, parking area in the rear with an
access road. Two access roads, one is an alley way, I guess,
very small, narrow, road between walls, and the other road is
the main road, but with a hedge.
It's all hedge, some kind of
green.
#66:
Do you recognize this area?
#01:
No, it's ah. . . it's not familiar ... I feel like it's in Teheran
though.
#66:
What is it that you are sensing that makes you say this?
#01:
I don't know ... I don.
...
I feel like it's close to where there
were a lot of other Americans at one time.
#66:
Is this building on the compound?
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#01:
No.
It's like in a residential area, though. Ah, diplomatic
residential area. Big homes, very private homes ... walls ...
lot of walls.
Close to a ... close to a big hospital
or a ... school or something ... a very large building with, ah
... a lab type people in ... or nurses or something ... people
wearing white.
#66:
This is a building that's close to the other building?
#01:
Perhaps three blocks away.
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#66:
Oh, I see, all right.
#01:
Shaped like a "Y".
PAUSE
#66:
All right, I have no further questions about this particular
target, but I would like you ... to provide you the opportunity
at this time to comment as you see fit.
PAUSE
I will wait.
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#01:
Looks very much like ah ... motel of some kind. Not unlike one
you would find in CONUS somewhere. But it is a very, ah ...
we ... ah ... private type motel. Exclusive type. It's for long
term guests, possibly some kind of a rest home or something ...
that nature. I don't have anything else.
#66:
All right, I want you to review once again the imagery that you
had, especially the exterior of the building and it's loca-
tion ... ah ... in relationship to it's surroundings and when you
are ready 1 want you to draw those perceptions that you had.
#01:
Okay. This is page one. I'm going to try and work this from
the outside - in I think and start by doing an overview and
work my way inside.
#66:
All right.
#01:
This building, street-wise, I got a feeling like there was these
residential streets going like this ... the wider ones going
from left to right and the skinny ones going top to bottom.
And this big lab type building or whatever it was is up here.
It's either a lab or a hospital or something where people
Wear all white. And then back here about mid-way, like two
or three blocks away, mid-way between streets was the area in
which this building lay. . . back here.
I got the feeling like the streets were canted off of north,
you know, like if that was north the streets were kind of
turned a 45 degree angle from true north, you know, instead
of what you might expect; streets going north and south, east
and west. And that all of the rest of it was broken up into
residential area. And little tiny alleyways that went up and
down like this, between the houses, where they would pick up
garbage and that kind of stuff. It's like this. And these
were broken up into large residential lots, with the, ah ...
big formal driveways and that sort of stuff.
So, on page one "A" is the target building and "B" is that lab
type building, I'll darken all of that in, in a few minutes
and ..... looking at the target and doing the layout as a square
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the page ... page two being the square. I feel like the entrance
was at the bottom of the page and sort of did this sort of
thing. Like a wing with a blunt nose and a formal covering
that came out like that with a covering that came back here ...
There was a large awning area over here, flat roofed, this
was a ... like a turn around area.
Parking area. With a park-
ing area over here in the back. This sort of thing.
And this was the entrance down here and this paved area had
an access back here, it was like a small alley type of road
that went like this, and it was like a, a ... access road that
came in like that from the alley. And then there was a ....
was a wall that went down, down this way, a very tall wall
like concrete wall, gate back here to get in, and a ... then the
wall went also like this, trying to figure out how this inter-
locked ....... and angled off this way ... and that this was all
trees out here and garden. This ... this is all garden ... and
trees.
And this part down here had a very large hedge that went away
on both sides. It had a very private and secluded type feeling
to it, this being a gate, and then this building page three,
looking at this building sort of like from the direction of
the arrow on page two that I will draw, like from the ... the
gateway, we'll call that view, on page two. Looking at it
from that view I got a feeling like it was also, like it was
a hill in there. Hill type of effect, this being three floors.
Ah ... let's see ... and this driveway went up here like this, and
this parking area was like up on a raised portion. Came down
here like this ... and went out, this was a turn circle like area
here, and then the ... this grassy thing kind of went up like
this, and there was ... this walkway went sort of like this, and
this is a covered walkway.
This I'm going to have to do a little better job on when I
get through, because it doesn't make a lot of sense, unless
it's done exactly right. And then the other wing of the build-
ing which you can't see went back that way like that. Then
another driveway, like that.
And there was actually three floors to this building, and there
was an exterior, some kind of a ... some kind of a exterior box
shape on the rear of it, it had a low retainer wall on each
floor and a support columns, sort of like that, with a roof,
and, ah ..... some kind of stairs interconnecting it, they went
like this, ah ... went down like that and then down like that.
Oh yeah, it didn't go all of the way down to the bottom because
down here there was just a wall that was up under the overhang
of the building, and a door in the wall, like a servant's en-
trance or something like that and these were all trees up here.
Oh, and the design on this building was like this in two places
on the face of each side of the building was this lattice work
design in concrete. And the reason why it stood out so well
is there is a, was a, like a hollow effect to this building
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back here like this, as if there were some very small ledges
built into the design of the building. That type of effect
so that the, ah ... the windows were back away from this lat-
tice work design,
There weren't a lot of rooms on each floor, there were only
like four or five rooms on each floor but all of the Rooms
were identical, something a little more than hotel rooms,
you know, more like efficiency like apartments,
And that
basically is what it looked like.
Page four. As you look at the building, comes in two wings,
second floor, there is a. .. like a, ah ... an opening here that's
glass, and there is a, ah ... stairs going up and stairs going
down .
There is a small hallway on each side. I felt like
these first five rooms right here, or six rooms were occupied.
#66:
I understand that you are saying that there are six hostages
all together.
#01:
Yeah, and they are all grouped on the second floor on the
wing closest to the entrance way.
#66:
All right.
#01:
And, ah ... I'm going to have to change that a little bit 'cause
I felt like they were occupying that entire wing, so there is
no more than six rooms to a wing on each floor, and, ah ...
this end over here, I got the feeling where this overhang was,
was probably a kitchen or something, a lounge area and a kit-
chen and everything. I can even draw a picture of that because
that might be very visible from the other side, which would be
more of a surreptitious area.
Side ... I got a feeling like looking at that wing the building
looked the same as from the other direction, difference being
that the ground actually came out right like this, and there
was this porch like area that came out. Like that. And this
was all glass doors, and this had an awning type thing coming
out ... coming out like this. Not exactly at that angle ... well
... more at an angle like that. That being the top of the wall,
into a gate, with the driveway that went in the back. It's
like a patio. And that's really about it, I guess.
#66:
Okay. Can you indicate on the appropriate drawings the rooms
where the hostages were and the guards positions that you per-
ceived?
#01:
Oh, okay. Ah ... going back to page four. The "X"s are where
the hostages were we'll put an "X" in the center of each of
the rooms the hostages were in, and I perceived a "G", I'll
use "G" for guard. Guard on the outside stairs, guard here,
guard here, and there were a lot of people down on the ground
floor, and there was only one guard, we will put him on number
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three (page), and he was like in the front by the front
door. The guard being here. Wherever there is a "G" there is
a guard. There just seemed to be a lot of people milling
around downstairs.
#66:
Okay, and you thought that one of the guards was armed, you
said.
#01:
The guy ... they were all armed. Except downstairs front, there
was the only one armed was the guard by the door. The rest
of the people could have been guards but they were just milling
around.
#66:
What you're saying is that all of the "G" personnel did have
weapons, and that there were other people downstairs milling
around.
#01:
Right ... Right.
...
#66:
Which you did not perceive to have weapons.
And they were
not hostage personnel, I assume.
#01:
No. I feel like this is some kind of a ... it ... I keep wanting
to call it a motel, but that's not what it is.
#66:
Okay.
#01:
So it ... you know ... it's like a ... ah ... some kind of a specialized
I don't
place. That's used as a motel, but it is not a motel.
know what it is.
#66:
Okay.
#01:
But I felt like it was in a very classy residential area
...
#66:
Now did you get a .....
#01:
That was a diplomatic residential area before.
#66:
Okay. Did you get any feeling about these six hostages that
you, ah ... perceived? We spent considerable time on the phy-
sical location, not scanning the people themselves, so do you
have any feeling about the ... six people?
#01:
The only other feeling that I have on any of the hostages was
ah ... was ... one person, about five foot nine, very silver gray
hair, very long hair, narrow, no beard, no mustache, clean
shaven, eafly fifties, fifty two, fifty three, that's the
only thing \ have, the only thing familiar
#66:
Okay.
#01:
Thin.
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#66:
Anything else you would like to add then?
#01:
No.
#66:
Okay. Fine.
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TARGET CUING INFORMATION
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION D-66
1. (S/NOFORN)
The remote viewer has been working on the hostage situation
for a number of months and has been exposed to a myriad of information both
classified and open source.
2. (S/NOFORN)
Prior to the session the viewer was shown the attached picture
and told that his job was to locate and describe Ahern's surroundings.
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