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SUMMARY ANALYSIS
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION D-5
1. (S/NOFORN)
This report documents a remote viewing session conducted in
compliance with a request from SOD, J3, OJCS, Pentagon, Washington, DC.
The purpose of the session was to provide information relevant to the
hostage situation in Iran.
2. (S/NOFORN) The remote viewer's impressions of the target are provided
as raw intelligence data, and, as such, have not been subjected to any
intermediate analysis, evaluation or collation. Interpretation and use of
the information provided is the responsibility of the requestor.
3. (S/NOFORN) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the document
Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol (S), undated.
4.
(S/NOFORN) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions during
the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by the remote viewer
reference his impressions of the target site. At TAB B is target cuing
information provided the remote viewer.
5. (S/NOFORN) The remote viewer was asked to locate Bruce W. German and
describe his surroundings. The viewer described German as being in a
"shoebox" like building which was in what appeared to be a residential area
approximately 15 kilometers from Teheran, Iran.
The viewer thought that
German was with five other hostages, one of which the viewer recognized
as Kennedy. The viewer also saw three armed guards, two inside and one
on the roof of the "shoebox" like building. The viewer perceived other
Iranians outside the building but was unable to determine their numbers.
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REMOTE VEIWING (RV) SESSION D-5
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#66:
This will be a remote viewing session for 1000 hours,
26 August 1980.
PAUSE
Relax and concentrate now. Relax and concentrate. Focus
your attention on Bruce German. Focus your attention now
solely and completely on Bruce German whose picture I
have shown you. Relax. Relax and focus. Move now in
the present time to Bruce German. Move now in the present
time to Bruce German and describe his location to me.
PAUSE
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#01:
It's at round doors .. . squares ... flat roof ... kind of a
shoebox ..... can't see any windows ...
#66:
Focus on his immediate surroundings.
PAUSE
#01:
Brick room ... brick wall ... it's a walk-in fireplace ...
cooking ... somebody cooking ... hole in the wall ... tile floor ...
old rugs, kind of old rugs ... stone, place is made of stone.
Like thin ... thin plaster on stone ...
#66:
Focus on Bruce in particular.
#01:
He's wearing, uh ... some kind of long gown, high collar ...
buttons like a shirt in the front. Sitting on a rug ...
He's got things ... some kind of a bag, or ... uh, like a
pillow case or something with clothes inside.
#66:
Is he alone?
#01:
Three others ... no, more than three ... five.
#66:
Who are the others?
#01:
He's with, uh ... big-boned individual.
Kennedy, I think.
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#66:
Are the others hostage personnel?
#01:
Yes. They're sitting on a rug, they have like ... cloth bags
with clothes, like they're something they pack things in.
They're makin' 'em ... uh, keep their stuff in a bag. Some
kind of cloth bag ... Kennedy is one of the others.
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#66:
What makes you say this?
#01:
I see his his face very clear.
#66:
Okay.
#01:
He's, uh, wearing just a ... dark pants and a T-shirt.
Stone
floor they're sitting on, old red stone floor. Building
looks like a shoebox.
No windows.
#66:
All right, you're loosing your focus and moving too fast.
Just stay in the immediate area now and look around for other
than hostage personnel.
#01:
Two, uh ... two, I guess two rows, two guards in the next room.
Looks like benches or something in the next room. Wooden
table, wooden chairs.
#66:
Are there other personnel besides the ... hostage personnel
you've told me about and these two guys?
#01:
Outside.
There's more outside.
#66:
What class of personnel are these?
#01:
They're, uh, guards. Iranians that are there to watch.
don't see any arms outside, though. Wait, there's, uh,
someone armed on the roof. He's the only one armed outside.
I
#66:
Okay. Now before you focus outside I'd appreciate staying
in the room with the hostages. Present time at the target
should be late afternoon.
#01:
Dark.
#66:
Late afternoon or early evening. Yes, it's getting dark
there now. I see by my watch. I want you to move on
a 48 hour time scan, back in time 24, and forward in time 24,
from now, and tell me any significant activity you discover.
#01:
Okay, one second.
I go back first.
#66:
I will wait.
PAUSE
#01:
Uby backwards, uh, 24 hours ... Someone came in a landrover,
Like, uh, some kind of a landrover type truck ... They
come in the compound to the building. . . it's like a low wall,
and, un, everyone had to put their stuff in the bags ... I
think they're gonna be moved, but they haven't been ... I go
ahead in time ... see if they move ...
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#66:
Go ahead in time and simply report what you see. Be careful
not to preconceive what you might see.
#01:
Okay.
PAUSE
#01:
There's a ... just saw, just saw 'em bringin' food ... but I
don't see anything else happenin' ...
#66:
Okay, I'd like you to refocus then on the present time in
the area where Bruce German is located. Tell me when you've
done so.
#01:
Okay. Okay.
#66:
Now, moving from this location to exit the building, describe
how one goes to move from here to the exit of the building ...
#01:
It's a low wooden door to a room with tables ... and chairs ...
and very, very heavy doors, double doors to a, uh, earthen
floor compound. It's inside a little wall. It's the only
way out. Like some kind of slots, or something, uh ... by the
ceiling.
#66:
Am I correct in understanding we have a shoebox shaped
building inside of a compound with a low wall?
#01:
That's correct.
#66:
Describe the size and dimensions of the shoebox shaped
building.
#01:
It's, uh ... 30 feet, uh, by 40 feet. One story. Some kind
of slots around the walls, inside ...
#66:
From a comfortable altitude describe the area surrounding
the building ...
#01:
Uh, small ... small town, like a neighborhood street. Uh,
empty lots, and residential area. . appears to be a garden ...
garden op small bushes planted behind the, behind the
building, like a floral garden of some kind ... and an
alleyway there, too ... It's like a residential area. But
no windows, just these slots ... don't see any windows.
#66:
Okay. I want you now to broaden your horizons, and ask
yourself the question: Prior to Bruce being brought to this
location, prior to Bruce being brought to this location,
what was the function of this building, and compound, prior
to Bruce being brought to this location.
#01:
Oh ... some kind of light, light administrative type function
but I don't know what ...
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#66:
What makes you say light administrative function?
#01:
Uh ...
#66:
Tell me what you see.
#01:
I'm not sure ... uh ... see a lot of, uh ... just a lot of dark
shapes, like squares and boxes. I see many people coming
and going.
#66:
Okay ... From a higher altitude now, from a higher altitude
now describe the area of German's locatien.
#01;
It's outside Teheran ... uh, possibly a different city, very
close to Teheran, southwest.
#66:
Tell me what makes you say this.
#01:
Uh ... I, I feel like if I follow the main road through this
town it goes southwest to northeast. If I go northeast I
would go to Teheran, which is like only 15 kilometers away,
maybe less.
#66:
Okay . . .
I have no further questions at this time, I'd like
to provide you the opportunity to add anything you would
like to ...
#01:
They're all talking about something .. . in a circle.
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#66:
Who are they?
#01:
The hostages.
#66:
All right ..
Describe their general state of health.
#01:
Very good.
It's like they're not overly concerned about
being hostages anymore. The guards are more for keeping
people out than worrying about their escape. Guards aren't
watching them, they're watching the outside.
#66:
You had mentioned before that there were two guards inside
and more outside. How many outside?
#01:
I don't know, there's just people watching outside ... lounging
in the area, only one armed, and he's on the roof .
#66:
Inside are they armed?
#01:
Two inside are armed, but they're not, uh ... they're not
holding their arms, they're like laying on tables, and they're
drinking something, talking and drinking something. They don't,
they just don't seem to be concerned about the inside, they're
only concerned about the outside.
#66:
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#01:
I don't know why, but that's all. And there's a. .. there's
a ... there's a field there or something, next to the building
with some kind of suspended cables and pulleys and things,
that's kind of unique, and might be easy to identify the
building with.
#66:
What's the function of these cables and pulleys?
#01:
I don't know they're hanging in the air, and there's this
like loops of cables and pulleys. I don't know what it's
for. Maybe not used anymore but still hanging there.
That's all I've got, I'm ... kind of losing it.
#66:
Okay, let's draw those things that you have had, then.
Okay, we're ready to draw here.
#01:
Well, let's see. I had a feeling like this, uh ... this
building, I think I said it was like 30 by 40 feet, it was
probably more like 25 to 40, it looked just like a shoebox,
it really did. It even looked like it had a roof on it, like
a shoebox top.
Looking at it from the top, I had like a
heavy wooden double doors ... at the entrance, and, uh, these
were really clear, they were like two dark brown wooden
squares, and they were real heavy wood, they were plain as
could be, and there was just hinges visible and they were
shut. And right inside there was a small room, the back of
which had another wooden door, but this was like an older
fashioned door of slatted wood of some kind, vertical stripe
wood, you know, like great big chunks of wood put together.
And in this room was two guards, which I'll indicate with
"G's" ip a circle. And there was like one or two tables,
which I'll indicate with "T's". Put a little legend down
here, "T" equals table, "G" equal's guard And chairs,
just wooden chairs, you know, just feal simple wooden table
and chairs in this room.For some reason I didn't see
any other details
The walls were stucco over stone, and the stucco was like
a yellow, this is both rooms, stucco was like a yellow, uh,
very, very, light okra type color. And then inside this other
room, at one corner, was like a walk-in type fireplace and
cooking area. Something you could actually walk up under,
but it didn't go outside the building, it was just right
there in the corner. And there was a big old rug, covered
the stone floor, and it's like an earthenware stone floor,
like a clay stone of some kind. And there was like, uh, these
five or six hostages sitting- I'm not sure about the number.
I felt like there was more than five, but not- you know,
like six or something. "H" is hostage. And they were just
sitting in a circle on this rug, and they all had, uh, like
laying next to them or over on the side, these pillowcases
or something, some kind of cloth bags with their clothing
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really in fairly good spirits, and they were talkin' to
one another, and, like, don't know what they were talkin'
about, but it was like we're not really hostages, we're
here havin' a good time talkin' to one another. And the
guards in the front didn't appear to be concerned about watch-
ing the hostages inside, it was like, well, we've got this good
old boy agreement, and they're not gonna try anything, so
we're not worried about them, but we're more concerned about
watching the outside.
And then there was a, uh, some kind of a low wall compound
that went like this ... that's like the compound area. And
I'm not sure if this garden was in the compound front, or
if it was in the rear. But there was a, I think it mighta
been to the rear, uh ... some garden to the rear, and there
was a road here, that went down the side of the building,
and there was a road out here.
#66:
Okay, you can draw those in from a higher altitude perspective.
Before we leave drawing #1, though, I'd like to ask you
something now, and I'don't want to lead you into response,
but I want to notice something that during the course of
the session, at no time did you mention any sleeping apparatus
or bathroom apparatus, or anything like that.
#01:
No. And I, like I said, I was looking for detail in this
room, you know, like beds, lamps, pictures on the wall, that
sort of thing, and there was nothin' there, it's just like
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this big rug in this big open, earthen, clay tile floor,
with a big upright fireplace that you can walk into in the
corner. And I didn't see anything else.
#66:
Now, one time you did have a feeling, uh, that there was a
vehicle that had arrived and there was something, some con-
cept or thoughts that you perceived, something about moving
from this location.
#01:
Yeah, and, uh ...
#66:
And in your later, in later looking at this location in a
future time you felt that there was food, there was food
there, or ...
#01:
Yeah, they were, they were delivering food.
#66:
Somebody was delivering food here, okay.
#01:
It's being delivered, but it was being delivered locally,
I mean it was like coming from across the road and down a
block kind of thing.
#66:
Okay .
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#01:
And, uh ... I saw a landrover type truck, in the 24 hour period
prior ... whoever came in the truck is the one that made 'em
put all their stuff in the bags, so I don't know if, well,
I'd just be guessing if I said anything else. I don't know
why there's no ... you know, no detail facility there or any-
thing ...
#66:
Okay, that's fine, I, I wanted to talk to you about that now
that the session is over just noticing that you didn't talk
about bedding or anything like that.
#01:
Clearly there wasn't anything there.
#66:
Okay.
#01:
Uh ... There's uh ... I wanna give you a picture from the front
of this building.
#66:
Okay, and I want a picture from a higher altitude, too.
#01:
Yeah. The front of the building struck me as really unique,
it just really-
#66:
This is the shoebox building?
#01:
Yeah, it's the first thing I saw, and it, you know, it just
like ... it was just like looking at a shoebox. I don't ...
It was like a framework of stone that went around the door,
double doors in the front like this. And there was just
these two big heavy doors. And it was all earth colored and
brown, and that was it, and that really struck me as odd,
just-
#66:
Drawing #2 is your very first concept.
#01:
Front.
Very first.
#66:
Of the front of the building where you feel German is located.
#01:
Right. I didn't see it in the front view, but I felt like-
page 3- along the, where the roof came, and the wall of the
building, felt like there was some kind of slots or some-
thing ... in the walls. Right up on the roofline, and I don't
know why, I just, you know, I was-
#66:
Is this from the outside on the outside or the inside?
#01:
Yeah.
I was just picturing these slots up there, I don't ...
Maybe some form of ventilation, or something ...
#66:
Now how about a high altitude picture of the, uh, situation.
This will be on page 4 then for the higher altitude picture.
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Building ... and there was, uh ... some kind of a garden
behind it. And there was a road, about like this ......
There was like a row of buildings here ... and, building here ...
And, uh, the compound went like this ... by compound I mean an
open area with this low wall around it. It might belong to
that particular building, or it may be something that some-
body decided to put a low wall around.
I don't know, you
know, it's just, I don't want to insinuate that it's some
protected encompassed area. All I mean by compound is a low
wall built around an area that's cleared of anything. And
then right here was an area of uh, cables ... and pulleys. I
wanna, I don't know if I can draw a picture of that or not,
it's just like they were suspended in the air, you know, like
I was gettin' this, uh- maybe I better- I was getting this
gestaltic impression of cables suspended in the air. They
were like, uh ... this kind of an effect ... just cables ...
pulleys. It might help find the building, I don't know ...
#66:
Now, uh, you had from a larger perspective some feeling about,
uh, this was located near Teheran but not in the city of
Teheran or something.
#01:
Oh, if you followed this road ...
#66:
Okay, we're-on drawing 4 now.
#014
For some reason I drew this upside down, I think I drew this
upside down. Um, I'm not sure if I'm upside-down or what.
If you went this way it's like 15 kilometers. .. to, uh, Teheran,
I don't know how to spell Teheran.
#66:
T-E-H-E-R-A-N.
#01:
Okay, but as I look at this picture for some reason, okay,
over here I'm putting the asterisk, I get the feeling that
that might be the road to Teheran. Which means my norths
might be screwed up.
#66:
Okay, so what you're saying is now that you have drawn the
picture on the page you know that one of these roads would
lead to Teheran but you're not too sure which one it is?
#01:
I don't know if north is straight up and down the page or
if north is south on the page, as I'm looking at it now.
#66:
Okay.
#01:
You know, it, in my mind I was firmly fixed that as I have
drawn this compound and everything, north is to the top of
the page, but now, for some reason, when I see it drawn on
the paper, I feel like north is south of the page. And I
don't know what what causes that, but that's what I'm
feeling, so it could be either to top or the bottom of the
page.
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#66:
So you're not sure about your directions, but you do feel
that it's about 15 miles to-
#01:
Right.
15 kilometers
#66:
15 kilometers to ... Teheran. Okay.
#01:
And that's about it I guess.
#66:
Okay, anything else you feel like you want to add?
#01:
No, just the, I saw one other hostage that was clearly
identifiable and that was Kennedy.
#66:
Okay .
That'll do it.
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G. = GUARD.
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TARGET CUING INFORMATION
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION D-5
1. (S/NOFORN)
This remote viewer has worked on the Iran hostage situation
for a number of months and has been exposed to a myriad of information both
classified and open source.
2. (S/:NOFORN)
Immediately prior to this session the remote viewer was
shown the attached photograph and asked to describe Bruce W. German's
surroundings.
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