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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CCC-36
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#14:
This will be a remote viewing session for
26 March 1980; mission time is 1400 hours.
PAUSE
All right #07 the time is now 1400 hours. Your
mission for this afternoon is to locate Don Hohman
and Bruce German.
It is believed that these two
individuals are being held hostage at the same
location in the U.S. Embassy compound. I want you
now to locate German and Hohman. Describe their
location to me.
PAUSE
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#07:
I got a skinny guy, a skinny guy sitting on a
floor ..... steps above me. Steps or something
above me.
Skinny, dark beard, barefooted, T-shirt.
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Looks like ... uh ... I got feeling of a basement.
Feeling of below ground.
PAUSE
I, I, I've been looking for the ... looking for the
other person.
I don't see him, but I have the
feeling ... that he's ... on the same floor.
#14:
Are there any other hostages at this location?
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#07:
I don't know. I found, found this guy for some
reason sitting on the floor leaning up against
the wall. His arms look awfully slim, and he
looks in pretty bad shape. Dark, dark-colored ...
uh ... some kind of trouser bottoms ... uh ... T-shirt
top. I looked for a bed. I didn't see one.
I
looked for windows. I didn't see any. I tried
to find out how he got here. I saw steps leading
up away from me. I assume this space is below
ground
Wait a minute
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#07:
Nearby.
Let me see. If I left this space
I would go through that door. Facing the door,
I'm aware of individual to my left. There's,
there's something about a sphere or a globe, globe.
Appearance is slightly better than ..... this
individual I see appears younger than the other one.
He's apparently asleep on his stomach.
PAUSE
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#07:
Bearded one ..
.has alot of old, old newspapers
near him.
PAUSE
#14:
Where is this location on the compound?
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#07:
Ok. I was trying to talk to Don. We're on
compound.
PAUSE
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#07:
I'm very, I'm very close to the building.
Having trouble seeing. .... I got part of a window.
Looks like brick, and it's two-story. Funny
contraptions associated with thisbuilding.
Don't know what they are.
#14:
Describe them.
#07:
Cylinder like shapes ... uh ... seems to be fitted
into ..... from building into ground below grade.
PAUSE
#07:
Other things seem electrical. Maybe heavy
insulators.
PAUSE
#07:
I was trying to compare what I see with
photographs that I've seen of the compound.
I'd better stop that. I'm afraid I'll make it fit.
PAUSE
#07:
Cables associated with this building, and something
definitely goes below, below the Floor level.
Below the normal floor level.
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#07:
I have a feeling this is not normal to common
construction practices.
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#07:
I'm, I'm going back to the
... take a look at
Don.
#14:
All right.
PAUSE
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#07:
Second time I've seen a bare light bulb hanging
from overhead in the vicinity of Don. I see ..
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Dam!
I keep seeing this ..... two individuals
above with white parka hoods pulled over their
face. I almost crossed in front of 'em ......
looking towards Don ..... I saw an old Army windbreak
type jacket hanging on the wall. I think Don's
right leg or foot is bothering him. I think it
has to do with one of his toes. Very weak, and I,
I see, I see some kind of blue print.
I think,
I think that's some kind of journal. I think
he's keeping a journal. Must hideit.
PAUSE
#07:
It's weird.
Felt there was a terribly ... uh ... tiny and sailed
right into the mist of some kind of electronic
components.
I saw the capacitors on my left
that's bigger than I am
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Colored bands around 'em, and silver numbers on
'em. It must be that ..
They couldn't
be that big.
I don't know whether this is
something to do with what.
... he'd done his
thinking.
..
..
.whether that's located in this
vicinity.
It could be something running through
his head.
I, I don't know.
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I, I just can't get a feel for the other person
named Bruce. Seems somewhat passive. Roll with
the punch type. Don seems. ..... I feel he has
'resisted and has probably brought undue suffering
on himself. Mental, mentally and physically.
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#14:
Describe his physical harassment.
#07:
Describe what?
#14:
You said he brought undue hardship upon himself
mentally and physically. What do you mean by
physically?
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#07:
His physiual appearance is somewhat emaciated.
I sense something wrong with right leg and foot.
That is physical. The other individual's
appearance is, appears somewhat ...... legs appear
a little thin around the knees .- Can see tendons,
but is not nearly emaciated in appearance as Don.
I feel either there is not alot of pressure on him
or, if there is, he is just falling back and
ignoring it or does not recognize that he's
under pressure.
Seems passive,
PAUSE
#07:
You push on Don, he pushes back. I sense that
this has made it somewhat rougher on Don. Don
almost has the appearance of being in solitary
confinement. If I know what that means. The
other individual seems to be in somewhat greater
comfort. I sense that Don has a very strong
feeling of responsibility.
I don't, I don't know
why I say that. He has a strong awareness of
duty, and responsibility.
I don't know if that
means he is trying to communicate with theoutside
or organize the other hostages, or negotiate better
treatment. I just feel about Don a sense of
responsibility.
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#07:
I see the bones in the foot. In the ankle again.
The right foot. I just assume that is his.
I
know this doesn't make sense but I feel dampness.
I would think that this area would be very low
on humidity, but I sense dampness. Maybe that
will isolate this place.
#14:
I have no further questions about Don or Bruce, but
I would like you, before parting the compound to
take a bird's-eye view, and locate this building
that they're in for me.
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#07:
I believe it is near what appears like enlisted
mess.
I saw where you make bread. I saw mess hall
type tables and seating. I cannot see the outside
of the building because I think I am seeing the
compound as it appears on photography, and I can't
separate the overlay.
#14:
Do you have an impression of .... even with overlay ..
where this location is?
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#07:
Two conflicting impressions, but it won't shred
out of overlay. I can see one end of the chancellery.
Then something keeps telling me to look to the,
to the right of the chancellery. Uh ... to the right.
That means if I'm standing in the field looking
at the chancellery I keep wanting to look over to the
right. Building seemed somewhat lower there.
Conglomerate and I can't separate it. I don't know
if I'm using one as a beacon to the other or ....
what it's all about. I also had the feeling of
very high blood pressure when I was looking at Don.
I don't know whether that was mine or his. I had a
sense of real high surging blood pressure.
That's
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#14:
Ok. I want you to stretch, open your eyes.
We're
now ready for debrief.
#07:
Ok. Most of the imagery was bits and pieces .... like
being in a very dark room with dim flashlight .. and
you only see what's in the dim beam of the flashlight
and you try and put it together as you move this thing
around. Uh ... so I don't have a feel for the hold
inside of the room where I found ... uh ... Don. There's
really nothing to draw. There was a, a man, T-shirt,
dark long-leg trouser type bottoms. Maybe pajamas,
maybe trousers.
I don't know. Bare-footed. Uh ...
on the floor ... uh ... leaning up against the wall. I
remember he had ... uh ... he had his hand against his
forehead; head leaned forward. He didn't move. I
assumed he was probably asleep or just very, very
tired ...... and, ok .... I could kind of draw ... figure
out a floor plan ..
. Our guy was
sitting ... uh ... next to the wall, and above him to
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the left where the Xs were I saw two fuzzy
figures with white parkas or hoods on. I couldn't
see the face, looking down at him.
I don't know
if that was symbolic or whether there were people
dressed like that in the vicinity or not. Uh ...
the wall at A, annotation A, was where I saw the
.. . uh ... Army type windbreaker hanging on awall.
I felt I was standing somewhere in the vicinity of
B, and somewhere on the opposite side in the
direction of the arrow was where I saw Bruce. I
could not make out whether he was in the same room
or whether he was in another room, down the way.
I tried several times to go out through that door
and look around and see where he was relative to
things, but something happened, I don't know.
I
didn't make it.
#14:
Uh ... when you were talking, I believe it was about
Bruce, you mentioned something about you had an
impression of sphere or a globe.
#07:
It, it was a thing that was separate again. Like
you moved the flashlight around and you see the
globe sitting there. I did not see alot of surround-
ings so I could tie it to things, but I felt since
I saw it while I was looking at Bruce he faded and
this thing came on. I had ... feeling ... something
to do with the globe was probably in his vicinity.
You know. It could have been a map room, you know.
I don't know.
It could have been symbolic.
This
sphere ....... then I thought it looked like a globe
Uh ... Bruce was lying on his stomach facing away from
me.
I think it was Bruce.
You know. It was the
only other person I saw and I thought it looked like
him.
#14:
You described ... uh ... an enlisted type mess room.
Mess hall type atmosphere.
#07:
Ok. That had nothing to do with .... I did not see
these people in there, but I was searching around
trying to find something to say, "Hey they're near
this, or they're at this place," and while I am
looking for this type of information, I saw
several loaves of bread in a row, and I saw the
types of racks, and I saw that you put bread on it
after it's baked ..
Then I saw an oven, and I
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thought, well, gee, this is garbage coming in
from some other place and I tried to shake it
off. Then I saw tables and benches like you
sometimes see in the old enlisted mess. Uh ..
so I assumed that they're location was in the
vicinity of this because I was looking for
information to tell me where I was.
Though
I did not see them physically connected.
I
don't know.
The enlisted mess may be in the
same building ... uh ... I don't know. But, there's
really not much I can draw that would be
#14:
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TARGET CUING INFORMATION
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CCC-36
1. (S)
The viewer has been exposed to open source news media
information as well as classified overhead imagery. He knew he
would be working against the hostage situation in Iran.
2. (S) At the time of the session the viewer was asked to
locate Don Hohman and Bruce German. The viewer was shown the attached
photographs, was told that they were located on the compound and were
believed to be at the same location.
The viewer was asked to describe
their location and their physical condition.
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SUMMARY ANALYSIS
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CCC-36
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(S)
This report documents a Remote Viewing (RV) session
conducted in compliance with a request from SOD, J3, OJCS, Pentagon,
Washington, D.C. The purpose of the session was to provide informa-
tion relevant to the hostage situation in the U.S. Embassy compound
in Teheran, Iran.
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(S) The remote viewer's impressions of the target are provided
as raw intelligence data and as such have not been subjected to any
intermediate analysis, evaluation or collation.
Interpretation and
use of the information provided is the responsibility of the requestor.
3. (S)
The protocol used for this session is detailed in the document
Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol (S), undated.
4. (S) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions during
the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by the remote
viewer reference his impressions of the target site. At TAB B is target
cuing information provided the remote viewer.
5. (S) The remote viewer was asked to locate Don Hohman and
Bruce German. He was asked to describe their location and physical
condition. Don Hohman was described as being in poor physical
condition.
Bruce German appeared to be getting along much better.
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