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INSCOM
GRILL FLAME
PROGRAM
SESSION REPORT
CLASSIFIED BY:MSG,DAMI-ISH
DATED: 051630ZJUL78
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REVIEW ON: Mar 2001
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GRILL FLAME
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SUMMARY ANALYSIS
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DCC
SG1A
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(S/NOFORN)
This report documents a remote viewing session conducted in
compliance with a request for information concerning an individual identified
as
2. (S/NOFORN) The remote viewer's impressions of the target are provided
as raw intelligence data, and, as such, have not been subjected to any
intermediate analysis, evaluation or collation. Interpretation. and use of
the information provided is the responsibility of the requestor.
3. (S/NOFORN)
The protocol used for this session is detailed in the document
Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol (S), undated.
4. (S/NOFORN) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions during
the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by the remote viewer
reference his impressions of the target site. At TAB B is target cuing
information provided the remote viewer.
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TRANSCRIPT
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DCC
TIME
#66:
This will be a remote viewing session for 0900 hours,
20 March 1981.
This will be a pre-session briefing to the remote viewer.
At this time I'll show you a picture of an individual
SG1Aidentified as
to be located
who is believed
#10.5:
Okay .
SG1A
SG1A
#66:
I'm going to ask you to. .. locate
at home in the
evening hours, at home, and I'll refer to him as
#10.5:
Mm-hmm.
#66:
Once we locate him at home in the evening hours, this should
be a comfortable window for you, uh, perhaps yesterday evening,
day before evening, recent time. I'll ask you about that time
window when you, when your perceptions start to flow.
#10.5:
Okay .
SG1A
once
#66:
Then, I will have a .. some questions about
we're able to locate and focus on him. Do you have any
questions at this time.
#10.5:
Uh-mm. (Negative)
#66:
All right. You have about 30 minutes then to prepare yourself
for this session.
PAUSE
#66:
Relax now and concentrate.
Relax .... relax .... relax. Focus
SG1A your attention now on
whose picture I have shown
you.
Solely and completely now on
... move now to
SG1A
SG1A
in the evening hours at home, and describe the scene
to me.
PAUSE
#10.5:
First thing ... two men and a woman on ... outside ... bundled
against the cold in some sort of a ... visiting place that
was ... some place with.a lot of steps ... Like they were on an
outing and had been surprised. They looked to me shocked ...
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#10.5:
... as though I, ah, caught them .... . out.
PAUSE
#10.5:
Feeling of a ... I keep thinking of shower stall, bathroom type
flavor ... steam rising ... and an apartment feeling, not a
house, an apartment.
SG1A
#66:
Tell me more about
here in this apartment.
#10.5:
He's, ah ... I see him two different times.
#66:
Describe your experience.
#10.5:
One. is the ... shower feeling and everything and ... the other is
the ... some other time and he's out, he's sitting on a low
sofa ... Maybe dressed in a bathrobe or something ... in the
living room ... the sky's darker outside, like fading sunlight
and something ... big fluffy and classic, ah. .. TV show type
bathrobe, but the furniture is light and low. .. not very, ah ..
ornate. It's light stuff.
SG1A
#66:
Tell me about
him.
now. Focus on him. Tell me about
PAUSE
#10.5:
I don't believe he's married.
#66:
Tell me the experience you have that makes you say this.
#10.5:
I don't feel any woman in the building. I feel like he's
... like in a bachelor pad. I don't feel any female presence
around. Some sort of spartan type feeling about this apart-
ment. Although my first impression I saw was a woman, but
I don't believe it's anyone that stays here. The kitchen is
like a typical, clean, dishes have been stacked in the drying
thing for days and he does he ... grabs stuff out o'hthere
You know it doesn't have this put away feeling. Doesn't
have this well cared for feeling of .. if a woman's lived here.
SG1A
#66:
Okay. Turn back to
and let's concentrate on him.
Describe his personality to me.
now. Turn back to
SG1A
#10.5:
Seems to be somewhat of a likable ... type. He .. ah .. is
personable.
#66:
Tell me the experience you've had that makes you say these
things.
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I see him ... associating with people in the light sense and
happy sense, but I see him ... here ... he's in his bathrobe and
he's serious .... as though.he's reading something ... he's
studying ... some sort of study, study time so he can be serious.
He's applying himself and not frittering his time away. He
horseback rides for ... sport. He likes to horseback ride.
I see him riding in a classic English cross-country stype,
European, European on a trail ... a wooded trail ....
He has that kind of class about him. Person who rides has a
certain air and "class" about 'em. But, it's a European
type, you see. We don't have that "class" ..... in America.
#66:
Okay. Do I understand that he ....
#10.5:
Somewhat of a huntsman, but he's not a hunter ... but he
enjoys that type of
#66:
All right. Focus on him and describe his character to me.
PAUSE
#10.5:
He seems to smoke and I see him with a limp in his right leg.
He's a, ah, I'm getting feeling of a, ah ... oh ... a light-
hearted gigalo type of character. A ... a flippant and, ah. ..
it's hard to describe ..... not bad, but very pliable ..... he
can ...... I don't want to say mercenary.
#66:
Tell me ---
#10.5:
His m- his goals are pliant. He can do things and make them
be right for him.
#66:
Tell me the experience you have that makes you say these
things.
#10.5:
Just this feeling of his cleaverness. I never tried to remote
view someone's character before.
So, I'm just giving you
feelings that I have. I have no imagery about it. I'm just
sort of sitting on his shoulder trying to figure out what he's --
#66:
Okay .
#10.5:
--- like and impression of this ...
#66:
The experience .... the experience you have is a feeling?
#10.5:
Yeah. Just this .. like this, ah, sort of amoral, but ... a
light-hearted .amorality, I guess is the way to describe it.
He's not viciously amoral, he's sort of cutely amoral ... like
a fox. A fox is cleaver and cunning and ... I see him as a fox
in the sense that he's light-heartedly going about his life.
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#66:
Okay .
#10.5:
But, that if he has to do something that's ... look a little
bad to someone else it doesn't. bother him. He can fix it in
his own head so that it's okay.
SG1A
Okay. Let's continue to focus now on
and turn now
#66:
SG1A
to
job. Tell me about his job.
#10.5:
Maybe it's his damn, ah, ... attire. It's his ... he reminds me
of a ... Jack Lemmon, wearing his bathrobe in some movie where
he's somewhat of a womanizer and. . ah .. that type of thing.
He looks .. his attitude is sort of a "bon-vivant." Okay.
Work.
PAUSE
#10.5:
In response to "Show me a picture of where you work" ... De ... :
designs, ah, feeling of a, some sort of apublic office build-
ing that has a trunckated pyramid on the roof ... A thick
roof that's angular and then lopped off on the top of it.
In response to the question, "Show me a picture of you at
work," I had a desk job type .. him in a gray suit, sitting
at a desk in a large bay with many other people, men with
desks. Something like a information processing center, like
a newspaper ... or a public affairs office or something that
has a lot of input andoutput in activity. Like the press,
like the dayroom in a newspaper looks like ..
....
#66:
Tell me about what he does in particular. What is his
part in this?
#10.5:
It's funny, I feel a linear type organization here and he
seems to sit at the front of a row which he is in charge
of. I don't see any partitions around that would otherwise
set a leader away from his men like we do. It's a line of
about four or five desks and he sits in the forward edge of
one. And, when I ask if he. .. supervised anyone I see sort o'
like "moved his finger" along the line showing that he's
.... these people. And, he gets stuff and walks back along
the line and drops it at different people's desks for them to
do or for them to work on. He has two large "in" boxes on.
his desk, one on the left and one on the right .......
He's in
charge of some territorial thing. He has to cover a territory.
#66:
What is the experience that makes you say this?
#10.5:
I'm asking what he does, and he ... I keep getting this feeling
of east ... something or other ... like he has to cover the ...
his part is concerned with the east of something. .. like the
east of an area ...
SG1A
#66:
Okay. I have no further questions about
but I
would like to give you time to explore and comment as you see fit.
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#10.5:
Mmm ... the building where he works is sort of short and squat ...
but, it's ... more stories. It's like ... seven or eight, nine
stories, something like that. It's not a skyscraper, but,
it's not a little building, and it's just about perfectly
rectangular ... light stone ... and he works up about the seventh
or eighth floor. He works up off the ground. He, ah,
.... well, he's really sucking down some sort of a drink now
in back in his apartment. . I had a fleeting feeling that he
had some sort of a. .. he had acquired some sort of a western
taste in booze. He's drinking with ice, and it's some
sort of a ... colored ... like rum or scotch. or burbon or something
that's sort o' colored. Brownish drink and he's really suckin'
it.down. You know, you drinking it like he drinks a ... like
you'd drink a coke. . . and he, s ... I don't think. .. like I said,
I don't think he's married. He may have been at one time,
but he's not anymore. I ask him like, you know, are you
married and he ... the answer I got is, you know, like ..
something like are you kidding me ... you know women just get
in the way ... there's no ... they're no good ... they're ... you
know ... they just get. in my way ... So ... never, you know, there's
sort of a bravado you'd expect from either somebody that's
terminally ugly or a confirmed bachelor ....
That's about all
I'm getting.
#66:
Okay. Return your attention now to the sound of my voice, to
the present time here in the room. Move your arms, move
your legs, take a few deep breaths, and let's draw some of
the things that you've had.
SG1A
All right, um, I asked you a great many questions about, uh,
personality and his character and I realize you
can, cannot draw pictures about that. I had one question I
did wanna ask though. You talked about him, uh, horseback
riding or being outside, and then you kind of inferred that
that was the type of person he was .. And I'm a bit confused
as to whether that is one of his hobbies or interests, or
you just used that as a tool to describe his personality.
#10.5:
Yeah. Um, he does horseback ride. And that is one of his
hobbies. Okay. That's where you can find him is on the local
horseback trail. I had the feeling he does, he goes there
very frequently and that there's some sort of an extablished
park. What do they call horseback riding trails? Something
trails. Equestrian trail. There is an established eques-
trian trail somewhere in and through a wooded area near there.
In, in that, wherever he is. And that he could be pretty
well regularly thought of toobe seen on those trails. You
could pretty regularly expect to catch him there with some
frequency. And he actually does horseback ride. But, also
it's hard to describe ... it also has an impact and is descrip-
tive of his personality in a way .. He is, uh, Americans would,
Americans would have a hard time understanding the European
flair of the person who is a horseback rider. Uh, they have
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#10.5:
a certain casualness about them, but a certain elitism about
them. Uh, they feel. elite. They may not even own a horse,
but if they go horseback riding then they consider themselves
part of that horsey set which has a tendency to make them
feel like they're set apart a little bit.
#66:
Is it somewhat similar to what, uh, we Americans feel in a
country club environment type thing? Those who belong to
the country club and those who don't?
#10.5:
Yeah. It would be like the person, maybe the person who is
a, uh ... oh, I'm tryin' to think of a parallel. It's be like
that. Somebody that plays golf. You know, the- or associated
with golfing and being a member of a golf country club and
that type of thing.
#66:
Okay.
#10.5:
Um ... But it smacks of old depth in the family type feeling, you
know, that type thing .. I don't know, it's hard to describe.
It's a certain world outlook, as the Germans would call it.
Certain, you know. I'd use the term bon-vivant in there as
being, or self-assuredness of some sort.
#66:
Okay. Uh, tell me about this apartment, a little bit about i
the apartment that you perceived. I wasn't too interested
during the session about the apartment, maybe you can just
kinda review what type of apartment it was.
#10.5:
Yeah, it's a, a, I seemed to be up on a, several floors up.
Uh, a small, more of a bachelor of type of apartment. I had
the feeling it only had, you know, living room, kitchenette,
little closed type kitchenette on the left side and, uh ... I
guess by maybe European standards having a kitchenette is a
class symbol. But it didn't strike me as being overpoweringly
ornate or anything like that, or outfitted. And the furniture,
furnishings in it were not, uh, nice. They were very spart
and light. Light rickety, not rickety but light non-durable
furniture. Almost like- I know the kind of furniture is like
when you walk into a model home and they just have this crap
that's been- it looks good, but it doesn't have any substance
to it. You know, if you stood up on the sofa your feet would
go through to the floor. It's only designed for sitting, it's
not rugged enough to take any- that's the type of furniture
that was in that place. Cursory, it'll do furniture, instead
of reallyhhard substantive, I wanna make an investment fur-
niture.
Uh, it has a window at the back end of the thing that's- in
looking, I didn't look out the window but I had the feeling
that he was on high ground and he was above, he was above the
ground floor, like. maybe on a fourth floor. Not a super floor,
apartment building. But that he overlooked the city. That
he had a nice view out there. I didn't get a chance to look
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#10.5:
at it, but I had the feeling that whereas he didn't necessarily
put much value on that ivew.of this big European city, and
Americans would put a premium on it, because it's the class
thing. You know, to have such a view would be just great for
an American. But he, you know, it was like, so it's, so it's
a view, so what, you know, he really wasn't that interested
in that.
#66:
Okay. What can you tell me about the, uh, information you
gathered when I asked about his job?
#10.5:
Okay, um ..... that's also seemed to be on another hillside or
up again, up high, higher. Like above a valley, up on the
side of a valley or something like that. In a city area.
Fairly modern, uh, office building that is short and squat.
Now, and I've drawn a sketch and it's sketch 2. So I won't go
on about that. That's another feeling of height. The work
environment where he was was like, it was like, it was remin-
iscent of, I'm not saying it was, but it was reminiscent of
the city day room for a big metropolitan newspaper. With desks
in rows. You know, Lou Grant, you know the opening scenes of
Lou Grant at the very beginning of their, of the hourly show.
Where they're panning the room and people are coming and going
and they're talking to each other and the press boys and the
copy boys and everybody's movin' around. Sort of that type of
flavor or many desks in rows. And each row belonging to the
guy in the lead desk. And like they being the action officers
behind the lead guy. But that this lead guy was not walk on
water, uh, high, high, high ranking. He was just another nerf
in, above the three or four nerfs that worked for him with no
real disparity in rank. You know, he was just like a ... the
most senior. Not really the better paid, just the most senior
or the most experienced, you know. Uh, and
uh, is
SG1A
a leader on one of those rows.
#66:
Okay, you've drawn in sketch-
#10.5:
And this is of sketch one, yeah.
Okay.
#66:
#10.5:
The feeling is he sits up in the forward part of one of the
rows, he receives material and then he portions the material
out to the people behind him who. work for, they don't really
work for him, they work with him. But he like supervises their,
their job. And they pick other stuff up. And it is remini-
scent, there was a, there was a strong flavor, I do have to.
say, this whole press room and copy boy and. .. was a heavy over-
tone of information processing of some sort. Like they were
not, they certainly, wait a minute let me get, uh, this is the
way to describe it.
They were dealing with something which is of non-substantive
form. Like information, as opposed to repairing left-handed
widgets. They were not technically doing things with their
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hands. They were in an environment in which they were read-
ing, receiving material and reading material and writing
material, digesting material. They were not building com-
puters or repairing refrigerators. They were dealing with an
insu- a non-substantive thing.
#66:
Okay. I think I understand your explanation. Okay.
#10.5:
Um ... Oh, the only other thing- I've written a lot on this
page, sketch one. The only other thing is in trying to figure
out what his responsibility was I had the feeling that he did
have some sort of a geographic area of responsibility. Like
his little, he and his little row were concerned with east
something or other. And they got information that had to do
with east something or other. I don't know what is it. I
don't know if it's eastern Europe, I don't know if it's eastern
United States, or I don't know if it's even means anything.
You know. But that was the only other thing that came in was
some, some sort of a geographic flavor.
Organization by a
district of some kind, geographic district. And that his had
to do with east.
#66:
Okay. Anything else you'd like to add ?...
#10.5:
Uh, I don't know. Do you want me to try to explain any better
what I had with his character type? I don't even remember
what I tried to sayithere.
#66:
Okay. I think we have it all on tape then. Anything else?
#10.5:
No.
#66:
Okay, fine.
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A BAY-LIKE ROOM WITH many mEn. Resembling The atmosphere
In A big city press Room for newspaper. The area
feels as though a lot of information is processed
here.
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SG1A
People enter and leave
Anatoly sits at head of a line of about four desks/men.
He is in charge of the desks behind him
He occasionally visits the desks to drop off work or
pick up work.
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TARGET CUING INFORMATION
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DCC
1. (S/NOFORN) . Information provided the remote viewer prior to the session
is documented as a pre-session briefing and is included in the transcript.
Photographs shown to the viewer are attached.
SG1A to
2.
(S/NOFORN)
During the session the viewer was asked questions pertaining
personality, interest, character, family relations and job.
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