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GRILL FLAME
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SUMMARY ANALYSIS
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DC-86
SG1B 1. (S/NOFORN) This report documents a remote viewing session conducted in
compliance with a request for information concerning the activities of
SG1B
2. (S/NOFORN) The remote viewer's impressions of the target are provided
as raw intelligence data, and as such, have not been subjected to any
intermediate analysis, evaluation or collation. Interpretation and use of
the information provided is the responsibility of the requestor.
3. (S/NOFORN) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the document
GRILL FLAME Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol (S), undated.
At TAB A is target cuing information.
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DC-86
#66:
This will be a remote viewing session for 1400 hours, 19 February 1981.
SG1E
SG1B
Today, we are going to be continuing to build rapport with a
as we can call by his nickname
SG1B
SG1B
SG1B
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Now, I want to show you another picture here of another office. Now,
as it turns out .... and there ...
or
works in this other building most of the time, and only visits the
SG1Bheadquarters occasionally in the evening. This is the best assessment
that we have of
activities, and that, and that we actually might
find him during most of the normal work day in this other building.
SG1B
Now, we are going to be asking you today to locate
during the
SG1B past twelve hours. Now, right now, it's approaching nine o'clock
at night in the
Right now, as we talk,
it's approaching nine o'clock at night.
So, we're going to ask you
to take a look during the past twelve hours, during the normal
SG1B
working day, during the past twelve hours, during the normal working
day, and locate
Now ..... if, in fact, you do seem to find him
SG1B
in this annex building, I call it an annex because it's not the
headquarters, if you do find him in this, it would be interesting
to follow through from this entrance where you can see a gentleman
standing at the entrance waiting for authorization to go into the
SG1B
building, it might be interesting to go through that and follow a route SG1E
office, so we might discover where
office is in that
to
building. The principal mission today is to establish rapport.
..
SG1B
to continue to establish rapport with
and, as we do find him,
and do pin him down, and focus on him wherever he may be today during
the normal working hours, I have a couple of questions that I will be
asking specifically about him. So, do you have any questions then,
before we begin preparation for this session?
#07:
Ah, you mentioned a door. Is there a door here?
#66:
Okay. I'll point it out to you again. See, there's a, this is
xeroxed, so it's hard to tell, but there is a gentleman standing,
waiting for admittance to the building at, what I've been told, is
like a check point or a guard desk or a permission to enter point.
You can see a man there waiting to get in. It's kind of hard to
recognize.
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#07:
I'll take your word for it. I.
#66:
It's hard to recognize, but that's. .. ah, I've been told, that's what
that is. That is a man waiting .....
#07:
I see a man, but I see no door.
#66:
Aha (affirmative).
#07:
Except a large ... ah ...
#66:
Like garage doors?
#07:
Yeah.
#66:
Okay.
Okay. Any other questions?
#07:
No. I don't think so.
#66:
Okay.
If not, then you have about ..
...... 20 minutes to prepare yourself.
PAUSE
SG1B
SG1B
#66:
Focus your attention now on
solely and completely on
PAUSE
SG1B
#66:
Focusing solely and completely on
who you know .well by now,
describe for me his work location during this past day. Describe
his work location during this past day.
PAUSE
#07:
I .. ah .. I got him at both places same time. I see him up pretty high
off the ground with an office with dim lighting except ... bright
light ... on the desk. Desk is, seems too low. Hw humpws ocwe ir
writing ... alone at night. Then, I see him in a more modern place .....
s-s-symbols, things ... make me think it ... seems tied to university.
? Hr
#66:
Elaborate on this for me. I don't understand.
#07:
I saw ... men, black (clothing) looked like American ... graduation,
cloak ... scrolls. Then I saw people in all white coats and shoes
Several things confuse me very much.
#66:
All right.
Then, do I understand that you feel these things are
symbols?
#07:
I think so.
#66:
And, in your perception, what do the symbols mean to you? What
symbolic meaning do they have to you?
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#07:
Some, some ... some ki --- some kind of, u --- ni --- versity ..... supported
facility. There's one part of building in that ... opens .. . vertically
for more than, more than one floor.
I saw metal ladder on
wheels, like ... like steps that they wheel out to airplane in the
small airport. Steps about ..... nine, eight, nine feet high.
#66:
Aha (affirmative). What goes on in this room with the ladder?
#07:
I've been tryin' to figure that. One moment I saw animals.
..
recognized very clearly .... one was a monkey ... small ... two foot from
rump ... rump to the top of the head ... monkey had large airy open
space, not confined or chained ... Saw ... long ... curved ribbon like
shape with little ball repetitions along perimeter.
I don't know
how big it is. It looked like I got inside of it.
Had to look all
directions to see it.
I think it's small.
SG1B
#66:
Turn now to
Turn now to
SG1B
#07:
Wait a minute.
I lost him. I was just wandering around inside this,
inside this ... must be some kind of laboratory.
PAUSE
SG1B
#66:
Tell me about
#07:
I have to find him.
He, he, he's being shown ... something. Like
.... image density slicing ... crude ... stylistic ... 'ave a map like shape
of a ... I think it's upper, upper torso and head .... of a human ....
different colors. All I know, it reminds me of a .... thermogram of a
human being.
SG1B
#66:
What is it
hopes to discover from this picture? From what he's
being shown, what is it
hopes to discover?
SG1B
#07:
He doesn't seem very impressed ... strong feeling, trying to please him
..
In this other room, I see long, long counter table-like thing
with a lot of people sitting .. six or eight people sitting, bent
over ... fiddling with something very small. A moment ago I had the
feeling of ... electronics involved, but I don't feel that, that it is
a product. Must be a tool
.... . I see a lot of ..... separate isolated
imagery of repetitive patterns ..... diminishing to ..... invisibility
... short span ... space. Don't know if this is some kind of pro-
gression or ...
.. total ..
.ir is total.
I gotta go back.
#66:
Let's go to the time window where
hours writing at the desk.
SG1B
is in the evening or night
#07:
I think I got him.
#66:
Okay. Now, as he sits there and his mind is occupied at his writing
let's contact him and ask him to explain to you his job responsibility.
What job is he doing? What's his responsibility, his area of
expertise?
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#07:
I don't normally ask for that label. It sure doesn't work asking
him.
#66:
All right. Let's ask him then, what is it he likes about his job.
What is the aspect which he enjoys most about his job?
#07:
I'll be damned ..... I get is a .... when I ask that question, there's
a little boy about .... eight years old trying to get love and attention,
...
recognition.
I feel that ...... that must be
.. still ...
#66:
Okay .
I can understand his answer.
SG1B
#07:
...
.still
#66:
Tell him that you, what you see .... tell him that you see this person
seeking ..... and ask him what it is that he must do to get this
recogni tion.
PAUSE
#07:
Well, his mind is either very, very complex or he's half crazy. I'm
gettin' awful imagery. Like .... emaciated .... faces of horror just flying
past me in the dark. I don't know if it has meaning, uh.
.
#66:
Tell him you do not understand the imagery to the question of how
does he achieve, how can he get this recognition, and ask him to try
and explain it to you in terms that you will understand.
#07:
I get masses ...... people, cowering .... crouching, fear .... hatred ....
There's a group of people over there ..... slowly promising, bating
promising .... something better .... or ..... I get a strong sensation of
some kind of manipulative .... manipulative control.
#66:
By what method
#07:
Feeling.
..
#66:
L.is this control affected?
#07:
.... not, um ... directly, involves. . . feels God-like ..
I don't want
t-t-to say, but some unnatural (mumble) some unnatural, something ....
cre-creates vulnerability of feeling, of vulnerability ... fear ....
peoples, masses .... appear symbolically very poor, uneducated ....
extremely vulnerable, but feeling ... is unnatural. Doesn't seem
to have .... doesn't seem to result from .... doesn't seem .... doesn't
seem to result from .... an identified threat by the people .... Just
got awful panicky fear of, from unknown causes ..
Get the feeling
.... possibly .... externally induced, chemically or electronically,
not like conveying information or fear to individuals .... peoples
do not .... do not understand .... Looks like ... get the feeling of
... huge mass of insane people, insane people ... peoples hallucinating
...
It's an awful damn scene.
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SG1B
#66:
Return to
and ask him how does one combat this. What is
the countermeasure? How does one protect from this?
PAUSE
#07:
Seems to be one of the pieces of the pie that makes it important.
He shook out a skinny finger at me. I ... it's a no-no ...
#66:
To what was he referring?
#07:
I asked the question, and ... he looked up and grinned, and he
shooked his index finger ... in a no-no -.... side- to-side. As if to
say, it's close hold or that's for me to know or.
#66:
Okay.
#07:
.... you don't need to know or feeling like that.
SG1B
#66:
Okay. All right. Very good. Listen to me now for just a minute.
Listen to me now for a minute. Remember the experience that
is having right now is he perceives that he's daydreaming. He
SG1B perceives that he's talking to himself. Therefore, you simply have
to ask
.. tell. him that it is close hold, and he's not supposed
to tell anybody. But, if he were to explain, if he were to explain
it, how would he do that?
PAUSE
#07:
Oh, yeah.
Relatively complicated but I can understand it
It's a big joke.
PAUSE
#07:
Was I working on something?
#66:
Okay. Hold your comments now while I turn over the tape, and then
we'll readdress the problem. Hold your comments now.
PAUSE
SG1B
#66:
Okay. You were readdressing
tellinghim that although he was
not to explain the countermeasure to you, if he were to explain it,
how would he go about doing it?
#07:
I think we discussed that.
#66:
All right. Would you like to repeat it please.
#07:
I gotta' go back and find it.
#66:
That's fine. I will wait.
PAUSE
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#07:
It's a ... whatever it is apparently quite safe. except for vulnerability
of people during this schizo ... uh, behavior ... apparently ... left alone
it ... left alone it runs its course like a fever ... unless other real
world conditions are induced. to ... extend the affect ... or to .. . implant
ideas ... while people are ..... I get the feeling extremely receptive
to ... outside stimuli ... The knowledge of how much, and how to go
about ... inducing the imprint ..... it's important.
#66:
Important in terms of what aspect?
#07:
To induce the desired affect.
#66:
What is the countermeasure to prevent the induction of affect?
What can be done?
#07:
I've been looking for the cause.
I felt if I had to find a cause,
I could understand the counter
66:
Aha. (Affirmative)
Sometimes it's easier to go directly to the
answer without bothering with the details of the nitty-gritty.
#07:
Uh ... I ... get ... get the feeling that ... the cause is ... something in
food, water or air, gas or something ... I didn't believe it was
gas because I looked at ... the people that were pretending to be good
guys ... They didn't have masks on to protect them, and they weren't,
they weren't schizo ... I get the feeling that ... the biggest counter
is to avoid intake of whatever it is that causes this. I get the
feeling that it's a sort of thing that can ... enter someone's system
without them being suspicious or aware ... recognition of the condi-
tion in time to counter is ... not within the capability of unassisted
human being. I mean without ... some type of external input that
warns .. . warning.
#66:
All right. Now, you stated previously that once induced if left
alone would run a course.
#07:
Yes.
#66:
.
.. and I believe you said that the danger period then is the ...
the time while the induced behavior is taking place is the danger
zone.
#07:
I get vulner -- vulnerability, vulnerable period.
#66:
Okay .
PAUSE
#07:
I don't know where it's a, a,. f ---- induced fear or the expressions
I see or (are) passive horror; not, not, not screaming horror.
#66:
Is there an induced flight or fight psychological response?
#07:
No.
Just the opposite.
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#66:
Explain.
#07:
Passive.
..
Going into tight crouching, covering, position .....
Trying to ... squirm under anything that's nearby, going to a tight
ball snuggle up against a flat wall ... though it doesn't hide ...
pressed tight against anything that will resist and not move away.
#66:
Aha. (Affirmative)
#07:
But, no running, no fight, definitely no fight, no fight.
#66:
And, you said, I believe that there was a ... during this time there
was a danger of susceptibility to suggestion.
#07:
Anything to escape this horrible feeling. I get the feeling that ...
induced suggestion ... creates a very strong ... desire, desire to be,
to please, to, to, to be subservient ... damn thing is ... reminds me
almost of what I imagine truth serum would be like, but talkativeness
is inaccurate, untruthful because of the desire to, to please.
Strong feeling that reward will result from pleasing something,
someone. For the record, I just ... saw a puff of smoke, steam ...
something just a puff come out of a long tube. It may mean nothing,
but.
. .
SG1B
#66:
Okay. Let's return to
him right now.
now, and tell me a little bit about
PAUSE
#07:
He doesn't see this, to have no control as horrible. Considers it a
temporary addition which ... brings about a better way of life.
Inspite of the warped desires of ... these unintelligent beings.
Feels he is ... creating happiness for these people in spite of themselves,
I think is what he thinks.
SG1B
#66:
Aha. (Affirmative) It's time now to thank
for the information
and tell him that you will see him again, and time now for you to
add any other perceptions that you feel are important.
PAUSE
#07:
I told him that ... this meditation period and rethinking of some
of ... his work was relaxing, pleasurable, daydream that was good
for his health, and that he ought to try and do this ... in the
evenings when he's alone and things are quiet.
#66:
Very good. Tell him that you will be willing to talk to him any
time he wishes. That you are available because you are free of time.
#07:
Had an expression on his face a few times. I don't think he's quite
ready for that.
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TARGET CUING INFORMATION
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DC-86
1. (S/NOFORN)
Information provided the remote viewer prior to the session
is documented as a pre-session interview included in the transcript. Attached
are the photographs shown to the viewer.
2. (5/NOFORN) This viewer has worked this target previously, see DC-80 and
DC-84. This session represents a continuing attempt to establish rapport
with
SG1B
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weight -175 ils
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InstructionsY
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