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GRILL FLAME
PROGRAM
SESSION REPORT
CLASSIFIED BY:MSG,DAMI-ISH
DATED:
051630ZJUL78
REVIEW ON:
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SUMMARY ANALYSIS
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DC-26
SG1A
1. (S/NOFORN)
This report documents a remote viewing session conducted in
compliance with a request for information concerning the activities of
2.
(S/NOFORN) The remote viewer's impressions of the target are provided as
raw intelligence data, and, as such, have not been subjected to any inter-
mediate analysis, evaluation or collation. Interpretation and use of the
information provided is the responsibility of the requestor.
3. (S/NOFORN)
The protocol used for this session is detailed in the docu-
ment Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol (S), undated.
4. (S/NOFORN) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions during
the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by the remote viewer
reference his impressions of the target site. At TAB B is target cuing infor-
mation provided the remote viewer.
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TRANSCRIPT
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DC-26
TIME
#66:
This will be a remote viewing session for 1400 hours,
3 December 1980.
Relax and concentrate now. Relax and concentrate. Focus
your attention now solely and completely on
whose picture I have shown you.
Focus solely and
completely on
Now move backwards through time.
Move backwards through time focusing on
Move backwards through time to
SG1A
SG1A
SCIA
SGIA
SG1A
SG1A
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#10.5:
I got a ...... it's off a window ... I feel like I'm up several
stories ... got some sort of framing around it
I keep seeing this ... like cluttered desk ...
#66:
What makes you say cluttered?
#10.5:
It has things scattered all over the top of it.
#66:
Describe these things to me ...
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#10.5:
Almost like a .... a pencil holder .... papers, loose papers.
..
Upper left corner is like a ... a basket thing .... books, pam-
phlets, and ...... it sits against the wall ... some sort of
framing thing ... like a window lookout or a ... something
square like a window would be ... right over top of it.
I'll work on him for awhile.
#66:
I will wait.
PAUSE
#10.5:
Wait, I have a ... ( ..... sa movement. : He's, uh ... like he, uh,
just walked through a large doorway, like a office building
or ... hotel ... modern ... overcoat ... raincoat.
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#66:
Remember we want only
SG1A
PAUSE
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#10.5:
(Mumbling) ... a desk again ... It's only a small room ...
I got him ... sitting like very patiently ... to the right side
of the room.
This little room is, uh, like someplace
off the hallway.
#66:
Okay.
#10.5:
And you look through the door and you can see the back of
his chair.
#66:
Okay.
Now ... standing behind him and looking over his
shoulder, what is he doing?
What is he doing?
#10.5: Well, it's like he's ... in a half standing, half seated
position. His back is to the back of the desk. He's facing
more towards the door, offset to the left of his door.
It's
like he's leaning against something that is butt high ...
To the left of the door that I got is this funny rack.
some
kind of a v-, a floor to ceiling ... uh, rack thing, like a, uh,
metallic bookcase.
#66:
Okay, now-
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#10.5:
And, uh, I'm having this, uh, feeling that he's listening to
a set of very funny earphones.
#66:
Okay, let's expand the time window from exactly
to plus or minus 5 minutes from that time frame, plus or
minus 5 minutes from
And as you look at that
broader time window report what
is doing.
SG1A
SG1A
SG1A
PAUSE
#10.5:
This, uhv. ..... I get, luh .... sitting, leaning over, writing
at his table, sort of in a very cramped and scrunched-up way,
like someone who sits and writes an awful lot, hunches over
the paper .... and makes a ... some sort of a special writing,
or drawing, like he's being very particular, like he's ... almost
draftsman, like he's ... got a jeweler's eyepiece. And he's
scrunched way over and the light shines down over his head.
And there's some sort of a straight edge and there's ...
straight lines on the paper. That's one, but then the.
then he like gets up and goes to that leaning position.
I
see him in that position ... Wait ....
The guy I saw before.
was different, he's waiting ... they said. He's a different
man ... He was skinnier, and he had a gray suit on. I don't
know if it was him or not ... Something to do with a, uh,
the guy I first saw in here was a ... more of a hawk faced guy,
narrower face, skinnier ... wearing like a gray tweed suit.
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#10.5:
The way he was sitting I thought it was very funny because
he was like waiting.
He was. He was like waiting with his
hands crossed in his lap. In a leaning position like he was
waiting for someone to come.
#66:
And the one at the desk?
Is he
SG1/
#10.5:
I think so, but he sits at the desk. And as I'm looking at
him he's leaning over the desk. I'm sitting on the desk
amongst all his clutter. And that's where I have the ... that's
where I have him with the, uh, black caps on his ears ... like
black caps on his ears.
#66:
And is this the one who is writing?
#10.5:
Yeah ...
#66:
Okay. In the precise time frame of him sitting at the desk
and writing, look around the desk again as he's sitting there,
when he writes, look around the desk again and tell me what
else is on the desk ... in that specific time frame where he's
writing
#10.5:
There's a ... (mumbling) looks like a ... inch thick pamphlet.
Not a bound book but a pamphlet .... There is something a.
by my right here .... which looks like earplug capsules, con-
tainers, earplug containers.
Something small, round, cylin-
drical like that ... They're just sorta haphazardly laid ...
to his upper right.
And around under where I am is a ... some
more papers there I can't make out. There're like stacks of
things on him desk, it's not four or five individuals. These
are like four or five things that make a inch and a half,
two inches high ... in places ...
Uh ... most of- I'm getting this feeling of like ... semi-formal
pamphlets. Not bound textbooks, but ... thick pamphlets of
many pages that are final product, but they are not what you
would buy in a store, they are what you would send to your ...
you know, your review board or your final study board.
#66:
Okay. Now as he's sitting here writing, being very meticulous
about what he's writing and lots of concentration, ask him
to show you what it is he's doing. Ask him to show you what
it is he's doing.
PAUSE
#10.5:
I'm, uh, completely the last work on this .... a very funny
word. First I thought he said tri. .. as in three, but it's
like tricular ... tricular or triculateral ...
#66:
Ask him to show you how he does this.
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#10.5:
He points to the pamphlet by his right.
It's a quarter i-,
three eighths inch thick. It is. ) .. . blue cardboard, heavy
paper ... Like he gets it from there.
:The word was like I
take it from here, meaning he gets it from there ...
This document has a roundish design on the blue cover that ...
reminiscent of a, uh ... it's roundish then it has another line
on it. And it, for some reason it is reminiscent of a ... the
texture of the thing looked like a .. . fleetingly a husk of a ...
peanut. Like it had little marks all over it. Anyway I'm
getting an idea that he transcribes specifically important
things on ... out of this light, light blue bound pamphlet ...
#66:
Ask him what is the purpose of what he's doing?
Ask him to
tell you what is the purpose of what he's doing
#10.5:
I got a, uh ... ah, my friend, that is very difficult to say.
He is sending this information on somewhere, I know. That
came from the last question too ...
This ... process is extremely
important. It's a process that he is concerned with, not a
thing, but a process.
#66:
I understand. What is the ... ask him what is the. .. tool most
important to this process.
Ask him what is the tool most
important to this process ...
#10.5:
I had a, uh ... ask him to show me the tool ... Had the impres-
sion it's inside of a, uh ... plunging valve, uh, black cast
steel or some such, and it's some sort of a movable part in
it. You can imagine a short, squat, very stubby cast metal
hypdermic of considerable weight. The thing thats plunges in
and out is lighter polished bra-, uh ... polished metal of some
kind, like it's a valve or a special pump action. Some sort
of a plunging action on the one end.
#66:
What's it's shape, it's general shape ?...
#10.5:
Like a short, squat hypodermic needle.
#66:
All right.
#10.5:
But larger.
#66:
Are you saying it's cylindrical as opposed to pyramidal or
cubic?
#10.5:
Yes, and it's ... got two things that stick out of the top and
the bottom.
#66:
Okay.
#10.5:
At one end. The other end is a little bit tapered.
#66:
Okay. I understand this object. Now, I want to know about
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the thing that this object fits into.
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#10.5:
All right, let me focus again, I'm out. Let me get back down
and sit on his ashtray or whatever it is here.
Well, this is a key control in a process factor ... factor.
It's a key control factor in the process.
#66:
Yes, I understand that.
And we want to know-
#10.5:
I know, I'm working.
#66:
Okay.
PAUSE
#10.5:
I'm getting it as being a part of a large massive engine of
some sort ... not engine engine, but I mean the machine complexity
of some sort that is here in this facility. It is long and
black ... and massive, like a large transformer is. Huge, huge
transformer, 20 feet high and I mean maybe 12-15 feet high,
maybe 24 feet long. The ... it has generally cylindrical shape
tube, but it is not hollow or plunging or anything, it is
packed with processing aspects and components. But the key
thing that identifies this thing is some sort of a upsweeping
rectangular on the end of it, like it's bulk is two different
levels. It has one lower right hand level at 12 or 15 feet,
but the left hand level is bigger and it comes out and up in
a rec-, more rectangular feeling.
#66:
All right, I have-
#10.5:
It's on somewhere else, let me go back to him.
#66:
We are, uh, out of tape time now, and I'm concerned about the
accuracy of your drawings as they now exist. You have any
final comments before closing?
#10.5:
No.
#66:
Okay. Let's then turn to drawing as accurately as possible
those things that you have at this time.
Okay, go ahead.
#10.5:
Okay, um, sketch one here. I have
. sitting here at
the desk. He's bending over very methodically transcribing
something. Uh, he's located in a very small cluttered office,
scientist o-, scientific office type of place. And I had the
impressions that what he was transcribing had to do with the
document that's on his, by his right elbow which is blue and
has a funny circle on the top of it. Okay, um ...
SG1/
#66:
You said things like, talked about a draftsman and paying
attention to what he was doing, and that what he was doing
took some mental effort.
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#10.5:
Yes, I- also on the paper here you can see like there's a,
there's a ruler out, there's a straight edge out. It's not
like he is necessarily coding something, which is an abstract
writing process. It's like he's copying something that is
of a design nature and so he needs to draw straight lines ...
and he may need to label as well, but the, you know.
'Cause
I saw lines on this paper that made like 72 degree angle.
#66:
Some sort of geometric shapes?
#10.5:
Some sort of geometric shape-
#66:
Okay.
#10.5:
-was on the paper. That would be unusual in a hand written
letter.
#66:
Okay.
#10.5:
Or a- somethin' like that.
#66:
Okay .
#10.5:
In front of him there's a window.
That's about it for sketch
one, really. Now, I guess, I guess I went off the-
#66:
Okay, we've got the tape turned over now.
#10.5:
Okay. I guess I got off the bean when you asked me about ...
maybe I directed you off, or got you off the bean when I
said this thing, what he's doing is concerned with an, with
a process. He's concerned with a process.
What I was getting
at was he's conc-, he's reporting, he's writing about a pro-
cess which is of interest, and he needs to write this and send
it on somewhere. Or, or maybe copy the diagrams and send it
on somewhere. And then in response to what is the main thing
about this process, I was still tracking the item of his
interest. So the process of his interest is directly related
to this thing in sketch two, which looks like an eyedropper,
or something like that.
#66:
Okay, so what you're saying, the information in the documents
in front of him is about a process which concerns the thing
that you've drawn in sketch two.
#10.5:
In sketch two, right.
#66:
Okay .
#10.5:
But it's not an eyedropper in the sense that it's not an inch
and a half long, it is something which is rather large and is
a larger mechanical device. Uh ... three to four feet long.
#66:
Okay.
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#10.5:
And eight to ten inches in diameter.
And this thing is like
a "T" valve or something that regulates flow of something.
The plunger on the left moves in and out and therefore, and
thereby regulates some flow in this process. And this is a
key thing in the process that he's interest in.
#66:
Okay. And this is what he's writing about-
#10.5:
This is what he's writing about, yes.
#66:
Okay .:
#10.5:
And it's black, heavy black metal. Cylindrical, gently taper-
ing on the right, the cylinder on the left is shiny and
plunges in and out and does not taper that I know of.
It
might- but there is some up and down flow out of these stubs
that stick out of the thing up and down. Like flows into the
big heavy metal cylinder and then is directed up and down to
get out of it. And I know I have not drawn holes or anything
that would indicate that, but there is some sort of an out-
ward movement outside, away from the cylinder. That's sketch
two.
Now, the thing in sketch two is a part of the large thing in
3A. This large thing in 3A is transformer in size, massive
transformerness, 12 feet in diameter and 22 feet long. It's
also black heavy metal containing all sorts of complex, super
complex functioning stuff. Only one minor part but the key
part to the process that this equipment represents is sketch
2 and it's located down in the back end and under the rectan-
gular part of it.
Somewhere down below in the bowels of this
big piece of stuff.
.
#66:
Okay. And again this is all what he's writing about.
#10.5:
Writing about, not how he's writing.
#66:
Okay, I understand.
#10.5:
Okay.
#66:
And how 'bout three B now?
#10.5:
Three B is ... I just put that in there, that's my version of
what was like printed on pale blue cover of the document in
under, or near his right elbow, which I believe is the source
document for the thing about which he is writing.
#66:
Okay.
#10.5:
Okay. He's got some sort of a circle with a line around, a
line around the middle of the circle design on it is all.
And it looked like it was, oh, it looked like it was very
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#10.5:
crudely printed, like almost mimeographed on- instead of
really offset printing. You know, it wasn't a formal docu-
ment, it was like a mimeographed document.
#66:
Okay
#10.5:
It had the quality of the little programs that they give out
in elementary school when you go to your kids schools PTA
meeting, you know, it's all flaky and speckling and you can
read the words but it's not really cool. Gets the job done
but that's about it.
All right. Now we come to another confusing portion of the
session. Very beginning of the session, somewhere in the
beginning of the session I had this man standing in the room.
He was standing, leaning with his bottom up against like the
corner of a desk, but not
Because I was
looking at
what later turned out to be
desk, from the corner, and this guy showed up right in. my
way. I couldn't see.
I had to sorta like peek around him.
And I thought that like it was somebody that came into this
room that
occupied to visit and I just happened to
catch him coming in to visit. Then al-, that was very fleet-
ing, and it was a very distinct intrusion in the area, it was
very - bam! right in front of my face. And I had to like
peek around him.
Now ... then, later on I, I think it was when you moved me and
you let me drift a little bit wider in a time bracket, I had
the feeling that
was standing over leaning with his
bottom against this same desk with his headphones on and that
the headphone wire went down into the bottom of the bookshelf
like thing that I was, that was there in a corner by the door.
And at that point, I think that that was valid imagery. I
think when you let me drift in time, or when you let me expand
my time window-
#66:
I opened your time window by plus or minus five minutes.
#10.5:
Yeah, that that is an action that he performs in here, in
this room during this time window. Maybe not the specific
beginning one but later on
But I don't know where the heck
the other guy came from.
#66:
The other person that was not
SG1A
SG1A
#10.5:
The other person that- when I saw
over there doing
the, sitting in a similar, or leaning in a similar posture
with his earphones on, that's when I- you'll hear me on the
tape- that's when I said "Wait a minute. The guy I saw there
first isn't the same one." The other fellow was thinner,
had like a widow's peak, severe widow's peak, had deeply dark
hair, thin in face, uh, wearing like a light tan, gray tan
tweed suit. That was somewhat sinister in feeling. I had the
SG1A
SG1A
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#10.5:
feeling like he was, uh, the investigator. You know, like
the guy that catches the spy type thing. The guy who walks
in off the street and goes into the spy's room and waits for
the spy to return and catches the spy by surprise type of a
situation. It's sort of Gestapo like, you know, lurking,
ominous presence lurking right there, very self-assured and-
#66:
Okay.
#10.5:
-invest-, queer-, investigatory, queerying, or investigating.
All right. So then, uh, in the widened time window
was over there. I finally resolved the problem that there
was this other guy there that maybe had come and visited and
left. I never saw the two of them together, by the way.
You know, another thought was that well, maybe they were run-
ning a personal meeting or something. And, uh, the only other
thing I have to add is that during the other parts of the
session when
was sitting at the table drafting or
whatever he was doing, he- at that time I felt he also was
wearing earphones, and they're the old-fash-, older-fashioned
kind with black cups on the ears and they have the ... they
have the metal rods that stick up out of the earphone part
so you can adjust the length on the earphones. But I did not
see an electrical cord on them. I didn't see that the cord
ran back behind him back into this bookshelf like he was
listening to the stereo or anything. It was like they were
cordless. And for a fleeting analytical moment somewhere in
the session when I realized that I couldn't see a cord.
I
had the rememberance, a very quick flashback to early child-
hood in playing with crystal sets, these little ... they used
to be about $2.98, little, when I was a kid, little crystal
sets. They were designed like a little rocket ship. All you
had to do was plug 'em on to a ground and you'd get four of
your favorite AM stations.
SG1A
SG1A
#66:
Okay .
#10.5:
You didn't really need an exterior power source or anything
like that. Sorta had this idea of self-containment, possibly
of crystal ... crystal run rig. That's all I have.
#66:
Okay. Um, I'd like you to return now to your thoughts of
drawing number one here. Uh, and now apart from this session
you will recall that you have visited
previously, and
in previous sessions you mentioned a calculator like device
that
is, uh, you identified as being part of
behavior.
And I want to ask you now in addressing his act-
ivity in this room at his desk and doing his writing and so
forth, does this feeling about a calculator play a part
in what he does here in this room?
SG1A
SG1A
SG1
#10.5:
No. He's not doin' anything with that calculator type of
thing. There's only one thing on his desk which vaguely res-
embles it, and that is a. .. little square box that, square box
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that's on his upper right next to his, on the sketch, next
to his, uh, light, his desk lamp idea. But that box, I looked
at that box and the only thing I got out of that box was that
it was like a paper slip holder, you know, like you do for
your calls and notes and stuff like that. When I looked-,
I didn't look at it asking if it was the calculator 'cause
of course I didn't realize you were after that at the time.
#66:
Okay .
#10.5:
Had no idea that you would have been interested in that. The
calculator was nowhere around, so what I- essentially I'm
saying this so that people who look at that sketch don't read
into that little box drawn up there as being a calculator.
'Cause when I looked at that box it was plain and simple -
a slip of paper holder, a box for messages and stuff, little
plastic thing or somethin'.
#66:
Okay.
#10.5:
No, did not get any feeling of a technical type of apparatus
at all.
#66:
All right. Good. Anything then that you have to add?
#10.5:
No.
#66:
.
Okay, fine.
#10.5:
That's it.
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SMALL ROOM 12x15
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MAN SITTING back to door
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TRANSCRIBING SOMETHING
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SKETCH #2 IS
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SECRET
TARGET CUING INFORMATION
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DC-26
1. (S/NOFORN) Prior to the session the remote viewer was shown the attached
picture and told that the individual was identified as
The
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viewer was told that he would be focusing on events of past time during the
session and that intense concentration on discipline would be required.
2.
(S/NOFOR N)
During the session the viewer was told to focus on the time
window of.
activity of
The viewer was asked to elaborate on those per-
ceptions he reported which seemed relevant to the interviewer.
and report the
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3. (S/NOFORN) This remote viewer has worked this target before and as such
was familiar with the general situation prior to the session. The viewer did
not, however, know what to expect in the specific time window provided. The
interviewer had been briefed on what might be expected during the time win-
dow and attempted to elicit information relevant to
use of a com-
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puter or calculator.
NOT RELEASABLE TO FOREIGN NATIONALS
LA RECON
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