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SUMMARY ANALYSIS
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION D-42
1. (S/NOFORN)
This report documents a remote viewing session conducted in
compliance with a request for information on
SG1
A
2. (S/NOFORN) The remote viewer's impressions of the target are provided as
raw intelligence data, and, as such, have not been subjected to any inter-
mediate analysis, evaluation or collation. Interpretation and use of the
information provided is the responsibility of the requestor.
3. (S/NOFORN)
The protocol used for this sessionis detailed in the document
Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol (S), undated.
4. (S/NOFORN)
Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions during
the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by the remote viewer
reference his impressions of the target site. At TAB B is target cuing infor-
mation provided the remote viewer. At TAB C are control analyst's questions
asked during the session.
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION D-42
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#66:
This will be a remote viewing session for 1100 hours,
11 September 1980.
Relax and concentrate now. Relax and concentrate. Focus
your attention on your target. Focus your attention on
your target. Focus your attention on
SG1A
SG1A
PAUSE
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#08:
There's a reoccuring impression.
Something like a departure point ... in the upper .... portion
of the country ... and there ... jagged little, uh. .. . jagged
little ... points of landing, and a (mumbling) big ocean
protected area ...
#66:
Describe your position of observation.
#08:
Okay ... From an overview ... there's alignment to second
(mumbling) ... could be midway, the upper half and to the
right.
#66:
Stand on the ground with
and
describe your immediate surroundings.
#08:
Desolate, uh ... desolate valleys in between high hills and
mountains ...
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Uh ....... there's a ... big convoy of vehicles. It's as if
they had this initial point that I described. One, to
one area and a, coming back from east to west in a convoy ...
#66:
Describe the vehicles in the convoy.
#08:
Lot of, uh ... they're not open vehicles, they're kind of
closed vehicles, with uh ... with a ... like sheltered sides,
personnel carriers with sheltered sides ... There's a cam-
ouflage paint and all that stuff ... that's uh.
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#66:
Describe the size of the convoy.
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#08:
It's very long.
I would think it's supposed to be
broken in two, but there's overlap ... it's just one long
string ...
.... I don't know.
. It's miles, it's uh ...
Three, four miles, three miles, four miles, something like
that. There's a ... red pendent if you want it ... over the, uh
... red background, yellow border ... a kind of a wheel in the
middle, middle of the wheel. And there's. .. something ...
intersecting the, the wheel from top to bottom.
#66:
Describe your position of observation as you look at this
convoy .
#08:
It's like I'm on a left side on a hill. I'm ... it stretches
so far (mumbling) that I can't see the beginning or the
ending of the line. And some very hilly, dry ... dry, rough
country.
#66:
Ask yourself what is the prominent geographic feature that
I may use to locate this unit. Ask yourself what is the
prominent geographic feature that I may use to locate this
unit.
#08:
The only way you can do it is, uh.
..
. there is the ...
when ... it would be like, uh ... journeying from west to east
in the sourthern portion of a country, going towards the,
and into the border of another country. Seems similar to
the other place I've seen before, I guess, and this is the
same portion. And if I were to draw ... a grid square around
"t" ... the border would be, uh, to the left of this, almost
to the left portion of the square, from, uh. .. . The left cor-
ner of the top of the square, just a small distance to the
bottom of the right of the square ... Beyond the, uh, be-
yond the geographical border once that is crossed to the
right of the new place of entry there's a lot of green ...
green tree and smoke's there (mumbling) ... it's as if they
were moving from
and going east, that's what it
looked like.
SG1
A
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#66:
All right. Focus on the convoy now, and describe in detail
the first vehicles in the. convoy.
PAUSE
#08:
Okay ....... It seems to change, the principle vehicles there
is a APC on tracks and then you get impression of smaller
vehicles ... darting from right to left as if they were scout-
ing or something, I think.
#66:
And further back in the convoy?
#08:
It's principally .... double-wheeled APC's, 'cause if you look
at 'em from the side there's the front wheel and then you see
more plain, uh, two other wheels in the rear. There ... track
vehicles too, but I think the predominant one with the wheel
of APCs.
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#66:
And even further back in the convoy ????
...
#08:
And there's a predominance of trucks ... and ... there would be
the portion carries the fire.
#66:
What makes you say this?
#08:
Trucks with, uh .... trucks with launching, trucks with anten-
nas ..... I really feel like ... direction of the fire control
would be more in that portion.
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#66:
What type of fire?
#08:
Rockets.
. there's some, uh, along that trailer
trucks too ..
they seem to be carrying ... a good
size self propel stuff.
...
#66:
What is it these long bed trailers are carrying?
#08:
Longer size self propel rockets
#66:
Describe the vehicles to me that hold these ....
#08:
Proportionately speaking ... they're snubnosed, heavy wheel
tractors.
#66:
I didn't understand you.
#08:
Snubnosed heavy wheel tractors.
#66:
All right
#08:
Something about a circle and a triangle in it too .... supposed
to be meaningful. And then ....
#66:
Tell me more about this.
#08:
The snout on the rocket is overhangs almost over the cab,
it's weird, as if the front of the rocket were going toward
the front of the truck ... exceeding the trailor by a few
feet and hanging over the cab
#66:
All right.
I'd like to change your focus now when you're
ready ...
#08:
Go ahead.
#66:
All right. Expand your awareness now and your consciousness,
and describe for me
Describe for me the
unit's military mission.
SG1
#08:
They really should be mechanized infantry outfit, but for
some reason it's been altered ... to a fire support outfit.
That's just impressions.
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#66:
Who does this unit support?
#08:
It's as if they just finished supporting somebody.
#66:
Who was it they just finished supporting?
PAUSE
#08:
When you said that ... I got a very, quick impression of black
infantrymen in camouflage attire ....
#66:
All right. Ask yourself, is
the unit you looked at last week.
related to
SG1
A
#08:
It, it all.
...
..
it all is very, very similar except for
the last thing that you asked me about who are supporting.
#66:
All right.
#08:
And the black infantrymen came up ... very close parallel
from a geographic point of view from many points of view,
except for your last query.
#66:
All right .....
You said that the sim-, there is a similarity
geographically between the unit you looked at today and the
unit of last week.
#08:
Mm-hmm.
#66:
Yet you find an anomoly with the black infantrymen.
#08:
Mm-hmm.
#66:
Explain that to me please.
#08:
For some reason there should be no contradiction, this.
....
..... okay. . The one thing is done ... that is the support that
they were engaged in. I can't explain the black ... infan-
trymen except to say that uniforms worn by the black infan-
trymen are all very new, very crisp. It's as if, uh, if
they hadn't ... any use, like they hadn't been in action yet,
like they hadn't, uh, been exposed to the action that is
compared to the units that we're supported by what the num-
ber thing is ... they were quite raggled, beraggled. They've
shown the wear and tear of action. The black infantrymen,
it's as if they hadn't; just issued (mumbling) fatigues and
stuff.
#66:
Okay. You feel then that
with their role here?
is finished
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#08:
Just the impression I get.
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#66:
All right.
I have no further questions concerning the tar-
get, but I'd like you at this time to comment as you see
fit, on the impressions you had.
PAUSE
#08:
Yeah, the black infantrymen are waiting for the ... presence,
if not the active support of that unit. That's about all I
can tell you.
#66:
How- you said they are waiting for?
#08:
Yeah, the presence of (mumbling) not an ... waiting for the
presence of the unit, but the unit's not gonna be engaged
in combat activity. It's a sort of a reassuring thing.
#66:
This is something in the future, they have no-
#08:
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
#66:
All right. Anything else to add?
#08:
No. No.
#66:
Okay. Let's prepare to draw then, those impressions that
you have had.
#08:
All right.
#66:
So I'd, really would like you to draw some of the, uh,
vehicles you saw in this convoy. So if you'll start with
the, uh, one that impressed you the most.
#08:
Yeah, the one that impressed me the most was the big, big
trailer.
Okay? And hooked on to this, let's see ... trailer
rear.
I made it so big it won't even fit now. Back here
there are two wheels.
Something like this. This is not,
certainly won't be dark. And the nose on those things was
something like this.
This was much s-, shorter, okay?
Longer, shorter, but the cab was very-
#66:
Was there just one rocket on each, uh, thing?
#08:
Yeah, that's all. There mighta been more ... that's, that's
about what that thing looked like, more or less
Like a dirt bike tire. Okay?
#66:
Okay.
#08:
Then the personnel carriers were high sided vehicles. Okay.
They weren't like open trucks or anything, you could barely
see the top of their heads. And these things.
#66:
Are you saying then the personnel carriers did have troops
in them?
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#08:
Yeah.
#66:
Okay.
#08:
Yeah.
. Whatever. I'm drawing the truck,
but it's not really a truck. Anyway, they can be recognized
by the fact they had one wheel here, and two wheels here.
But it wasn't a truck, it was ... kind of covered vehicle.
#66:
And they're not tracked?
#08:
Some of 'em were tracked, but there were more wheel than
they were tracks.
#66:
Okay.
#08:
I don't know ..
.something like that ...
#66:
Okay .... So we have one impressive, uh, rocket type trailer.
We have a, uh, personnel carrier here.
And what other
vehicles did you see? Do you recall?
#08:
Just the threaded APC's ... Okay?
This is the rear, this is
the side, these are where the guys are ... something like that
... whatever, a wheel.
#66:
Okay.
#08:
Threads.
#66:
Okay, that'll be number three then, for a, uh ...
#08:
Let me see with tracks.
#66:
Okay, and, uh, were there any other weapons vehicles that
you saw? Other than the one you've drawn.
#08:
Oh, yeah, yeah, they were trucks, what I thought were same
thing as this, except that it had, uh, well there were
vehicles, where there were ... I think they on threads, and
what you had was like launching pads of, of small rockets
which I described in the other sessions. Okay, and right
here is a ... a threaded vehicles, like this ... The big
impression is that you have slabs of, of rockets, okay, one
slab of rockets taking off. It's not very well done but
it's all I can do.
#66:
These are tracked?
#08:
Yeah, most of 'em. Tracks.
#66:
So in number four then we have a tracked, uh, rocket launcher
of some kind, with many rockets on it?
#08:
Yeah.
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#66:
Okay.
#08:
This as if, you know, in the second World War where you had
these huge tiers of rockets just being launched. That's
the impression that I got on that one.
#66:
Okay.
#08:
Which I've had before.
#66:
Anything else then? I, when I asked you about geographic
location you had a-
#08:
Oh, yeah, yeah.
#66:
-you pretty much got a map rather than a prominent rock or
anything.
#08:
Yeah, I don't think you could've, you could've ... I was look-
ing for something. There was something there. The only
impression that I got ..
.. lower left portion. I'll put
that number five. And here is, uh ... they were traveling in
this direction, and all of this is hilly and down here is
valleys, and I couldn't-
#66:
Write hills and valleys.
#08:
Okay.
#66:
Label this as a border or something.
#08:
Yeah.
And once you crossed into here, which appeared to be
a border, then the thing that I was trying to get to you is
hilly foliage here, into another country ...
#66:
Okay, now you've drawn this little grid square on five, then,
with north being the top of the page?
#08:
Right.
Yes. Hopefully.
#66:
Okay .
So they were traveling then from-
#08:
East, uh, yeah. East to west.
#66:
From east going west and with plans to cross this border here.
#08:
Yeah.
#66:
Into another country. Okay.
#08:
Okay.
#66:
Yeah.
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#08:
And this country came to the water somehow.
#66:
Okay.
#08:
Okay, the eastern portion of this country, let me draw it
here, was, this was water.
#66:
Okay. . .
#08:
I'll label that eastern border.
#66:
Okay.
Eastern border ... in on the water-
#08:
Yeah.
#66:
-and then they crossed this-
#08:
Yeah.
#66:
Okay .
#08:
Yeah.
They were more around here someplace.
#66:
Okay .
#08:
And going in that direction.
#66:
Now I'd like to ask a couple questions about these- at one
point here you said, when I asked you about their support
role you said, well, they're finished, and then you had
some imagery of some black infantrymen.
#08:
Yeah.
#66:
And then later on you said that actually these black infan-
trymen were wating for this unit.
#08:
Yeah.
#66:
So I'm confused about your impression of being finished,
and then your separate impression of these black infantrymen
waiting.
#08:
So was I confused, because I didn't know if it was ... was
present that they were supporting, present, uh, then they
kept flashing back. Then I got the impression that they
were someplace else waiting for the arrival of the unit, as
opposed to the people that they had just supported, which
you brought back on, which were, uh ... which were, which had
all evidence of having been in a skirmish or something like
that .. .
#66:
I see.
So you saw two sets of people.
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#08:
Yes. ,
#66:
So people that had been through a skirmish-
#08:
Yeah.
#66:
And the people, the newer unit.
#08:
The new, whoever was waiting for 'em was, was wearing new
crisp, camouflage uniforms, as if they had just been set up.
#66:
Okay.
#08:
Okay. And they were waiting- got the impression, very distinct
impression that they were waiting for the presence of the
unit, that there was no indication that the unit was going
to go into action as soon as it. .. as soon as it arrived
where it was going in support of this black infantry unit.
#66:
Okay .
#08:
It was just a presence.
#66:
Okay.
#08:
Logistical, not a logistical support, just a support by it's
mere presence.
#66:
I see. You didn't get the feeling that they would be actively
engaged in-
#08:
No.
#66:
Shooting these rockets and fire power and-
#08:
No, no. No.
#66:
Only their presence was required.
#08:
Just their presence.
Their future presence.
#66:
Okay .
Anything else?
#08:
No.
#66:
Okay.
That'll do it then.
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TARGET CUING INFORMATION
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION D-42
SG1A
1.
(S/NOFORN),
Prior to the session the remote viewer was told he would be
focusing on a
different from the one of the
previous week.
SG1A
2. (S/NOFORN)
At the beginning of the session the viewer was provided
He was asked to locate this unit and describe the location.
3.
(S/NOFORN) During the session the interviewer encouraged the viewer to
elaborate on his descriptions as directed by the control analyist.
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1. (U) The information provided as enclosure to this report was obtained in
response to a collection requirement provided by your office. The information
is from an unconfirmed source, therefore caution is warranted in its use.
This office has been tasked by the Commanding General, Intelligence and Security
Command, to evaluate and comment on the operational value of the information
provided, as well as to ascertain the accuracy of the source.
2. (U) In order to comply with this directive, request the information provided
as an enclosure be evaluated and comments be provided this office no later than
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This should be accomplished by responding to questions pro-
vided within Section III of this report.
3. (U) Section II contains special instructions for the analysts.
4. (U) Project Number:
8028 . (D-42)
5. (U) Requestor:
SRD ITAC INISCOM
6. (S) Source Number:
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7. (S) Interrogator Number:
66
SG1
8. (S) Date Information was Obtained:
11 SEP80
Times: FM 1/00/10
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source targeting is:
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1. (V) The material you have been given to review has been acquired from a new
and potentially valuable source of intelligence. Work is currently being con-
ducted on how to improve the accuracy and reliability of the data. Your atten-
tion to the evaluation sheet and your remarks will be the basis for our assessment
of this new collection technique. Therefore, the effort you expend will greatly
assist us and will ultimately result in you receiving more information of increas-
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following comments concerning this new source of intelligence may be helpful.
Foremost, the information is likely to consist of a mixture of correct ard in-
correct clements. Specifically :
a. (S) The descriptive elements are generally of higher reliability than
judgements or labels as to what is being described (recreational swimming pool
mey be mistaken for water purification pools, an aircraft hull may be mistaken
for a submarine hull, etc. ). Therefore, seemingly appropriate descriptive elements
should not be rejected because of mislabeling.
b. (S) The data often contains gaps (in a 3-building complex, for example,
perhaps only two of the buildings may be described, and an airfield may be added
that isn't there). Such gaps or additions should not be taken to mean that the
rest of the data is necessarily inaccurate.
3. (S) Therefore, a recommended approach is to first examine the entire information
packet to obtain an overall flavor of the response, reserving final judgement even
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TARGET EVALUATION
1. (U) For the summary evaluation, please check the following boxes as to the
ACCURACY* of the submitted material.
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N/A
a. (S) Geographical locale des-
cription ( terrain, water, -tc.)
b. (S) Large-scale manmade elements
(cities, buildings, silos, docks, rail-
road lines, airfields, etc. )
c. (S) Small-scale manmade elements
(antennas, computers, tanks, missiles,
offices, etc.)
d. (S) General target ambience (re-
search, production, administration,
storage, troop movements, naval activity,
air activity, weapons testing, etc.)
c. (S) Relevant specific activities
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plans, etc.)
2. (S) Overall Utility:
NONE
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USEFUL
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l=Mixed results (Mix of correct and incorrect elements, but enough of the former to
indicate source did collect against target.)
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3-Excellent (Goud correspondence with unambiguous unique matchable cloments and rela-
tively little incorrect information. )
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