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SUMMARY ANALYSIS
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSIONS C71A AND C71B
SG1A
SG1A
1. (S) This report provides documentation of two remote viewing
sessions conducted in compliance with a request from OACSI, DA.
This office was requested to provide information concerning the
In response to this request
SG1A
SG1A
at the Intelligence Threat Analysis Center (ITAC) , INSCOM,
was contacted and briefed on the INSCOM GRILL FLAME Project (IGFP) .
He was asked to provide target data and orientation information so
that a remote viewer could be directed to provide relevant and
needed intelligence information. The
viewer was provided only
SG1A
the
copy of a photo of the individual
believed to be
(see TAB B). The mission was
to locate the individual and describe his location and activity.
SG1A
2.
(S) The viewer reached a very relaxed state and began describing
the individual's location and activities in detail. The information
provided by the viewer did not correlate with the information
provided by
as to the location and activities
of the individual. However, upon contacting the ITAC representative,
there seemed to be some doubt as to the actual whereabouts of the
individual. During the second session (C71B) the remote viewer was
tasked to go back to a date in time when the individual's location
was known and describe the area and activities taking place at that
time.
3. (S) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the
document, GRILL FLAME Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing
Protocol (S) , undated.
4. (S) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions
during the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by the
viewer reference his impressions of the target site. At TAB B is
information provided to viewer. At TAB C will be analytical comments
when provided by ITAC.
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION C 71A
#14
This will be a remote viewing session (edited for
security) .
PAUSE
SG1A
The target for control is an individual whose name
is, initials
Focus your attention
on this person and tell me where he is.
PAUSE
#31
Uh ...... uh ... I have a .. a .. hard to say .. size of what
is a square flat roof, building. A cinder grade,
many regular windows, I feel he's in a .. a built up
area .. and this building is a long. . vertically. . length
... now horizontally ... (not audible) ... many windows
... taller than buildings next to it. On a paved road.
Many buildings around. The building is. . maybe twice
as tall as the ones next to it. A very narrow space
... very narrow space between it and next door buildings.
... uh ... it's like looking down a canyon. But I have
the feeling I was ... or he was up in maybe the top one
or two floors. Narrow space around the building, like
cracks. They might be. . uh. . maybe only twenty feet wide.
Because of the size of the target, they look only like
cracks around the building, and .. OK. . uh. . massive big
city. Feeling that city has a river through (not audible)
... makes a dog leg.
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Tell me more about this city. Where
#31
Yes ... I feel like .. I'm having trouble .. I .. uh .... I feel
like I'm being drawn. I somewhere lost my building ..
I'm being ... feel like I'm moving sideways, rapidly,
round in circles. I got to get some control, here.
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#31
... More about the city.
I see a. . I don't know the
direction. I feel like .. I see a white marble type
dome structure with columns .. like a memorial.
It is
not on any major access to the start building but it,
has a major access wide road ... big ... big long .. plaza
or .. the road enters that target and my start point is ..
is .. maybe a mile to the left ... almost on the same
latitude as this place. Between this place and the
start building is a humble, jumble of constructed
buildings of different heights and it's solid mass
structures.
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#31
A river dog legs .... (pause) .. draw a line between the
two. The river .. uh .. dog legs .. I want to say first
time, may be one-fourth of a mile north of that line,
half way. It comes in at a slight angle off .. off the
line and curves away from the line before it hits it.
And goes on off. I think left is north .... (pause) it's
hard to tell the li ... (not audible) city.
PAUSE
#14
Where in the world is this city located?
PAUSE
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#31
... working ... (pause)
. Western Europe
and maybe to northern part, south of water, looking like
... looks like it's a .. northern way out northern,
one-third and south of water ... I think it's Berlin.
That was from a aerial map. It seems to feel good.
#14
ок.
Focus your attention again on
his immediate surroundings.
Describe
SG1A
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#31
(Sigh)
I a
.......
(pause)
....
(not audible)
.let me work awhile ...... good
impression ..
. . carpeted, small room ....
. (cough)
two windows, a bed in front of window. He's standing
on floor. I think there's a ... he's up high. . I a thing
he's alone .. uh .. it seems .. uh .. a nonofficial place. I
don't detect any business ... sitting at a table ... uh ..
small table.
.... good imagery in writing but he's a
casual .. sitting alone .. table in the middle of the room
. maybe a different room.
I see white, white things
all around. A white floor.
I feel like a .. cabinets
and appliances. Maybe a kitchen .... uh .. I don't feel
he's in uniform .. turtle neck, long sleeves, dark knit
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something. I even want to put house slippers on his.
feet. Like brown ... brown or dark gray slacks. If
this is the man, he ain't on duty. .. Uh. . he's like
working at his a .. table .. a .. it's like he's doing work
at home .. he's a .. something almost business like home
.. I want to say there's a typewriter sitting on a ....
one corner of table .. uh. . from this place I can look
out to a .. I get the same fe ... I feel he's up high in
the building. As I look out the window he's a. . I look
out on the city. There's a big a place across the street
but not as big as this place. I feel I can look across
the street out his window and look down a roof. . uh .. the
roof's maybe .. uh. . this building is different. It looks
like it's one across the street. It looks like older
red brick, fewer windows, less modern than in the one
I'm in. I want to say the roof is flat .... (not audible)
... in the right opposite corner is a box of some kind ..
a big box .. like the top of an elevator terminal .. an
elevator shaft ... OK. Back here .. the guys got like a
living room, sleeping room, same place. Uh .. in where
the bed is, is also his living room .. like a little
efficiency room with a capital E. Got a. . looks like
books on the wall ... on the wall books and stuff, ash
tray here, there. It's got carpeting, but not good
stuff, more like a rug .... got a chair too. Kinda
spartan actually ... like he's baching it. The only thing
I can really say ..... is ... the only thing I can really
detect continuity wise is access of kitchen from this
room and other than maybe it's (not audible) ... I don't
there's anything else to the place.
Where to boss?
PAUSE
#14
I'm going to ask you to move sideways in time a little
bit. Obviously, you've caught this man at home. What
I now want you to do is move to the time when he is at
his job and describe the job and his location to me.
PAUSE
#31
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I had a ... a feeling of a big bay ... a big bay filled with
people ...... typewriters ...... equipment ...... (pause)
nice office. Got a feeling of a .... you know ... a .. nice ...
nice walnut type desk, plush,,,,groovy place, small office,
accessing this outside bay which is rather large, not
many people on it.
uh
. OK .. let me work on
it.
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OK ... let me work on this thing here ... I ..... get the
light ... back
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#31
... lots of people wearing. .. a. .. earphones, , ,, had shot
.... earphones ... shot of I feel uniforms now ... sort of
deep brown ... feeling is .. a .. a .. deep brown .. green.
deep brown green.
Uh .. (not audible) that ROD.
Uh ... a ... OK, I got .. um ... I got a full shot of a.
It's hard to tell where this thing is. I had the
feeling of ranks and ranks of ... first feeling was
ranks and ranks of low tables of clerical type, lot of
paper work, typing, transcribing ... uh. .. then I had a
shot of full wall unit of .. or a .. wrong to say wall
unit but a equipment module of some kind, long skinny
but tall resting on back of long metal desk but guys on
stools sitting in front of it four or five feet apart.
Three or four feet apart.
And these guys had a little
(not audible) ... seemed like they had a little .. a ..
machine on right protruding from the equipment rack ..
like .. uh .. with buttons on it .. like .. a .. like each of the
right sides its .. the back of this little machine marks
the stopping of that guys place and the starting of his
neighbors place and it's got buttons on it and it's
shaped like a typewriter but it's smaller. Button
bank at an angle and then a flat top. And this thing
is somehow plugged in or connected to the big stuff that
sits in front of the guy. And into its left, he's got
a work space. A table top and then to his left hand is
the back of .. is the side of the next guys thing. . but
the vertical equipment all goes in the front of him is
all con ... is all connected. The only thing that sticks
out of it are these little things at desk level ... gray
metal gray round stools ... these guys. There's about
five of 'em. It's only a line of about four or five, but
where, where in hell it is in this ... I don't know.
Let me go in the back of the room and look ..
.. Uh
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#31
I think their on .. looking from the back of the room.
They're on the right side but separated from those other
guys by a partition or a light wall. They seem to be
segregated from the groups and there seem to be several
groups in a line .. like you walk into this thing .. a long
access of a long narrow room, almost like a tunnel.
And then there is .. one or two access areas through the
partition or the light wall for moving back and forth.
Somewhere I keep getting this fleeting impression ..
.. as very, very solid impression of a ground level and
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#31
... I keep getting this shot as though it's through a
window .. implausible as it may sound. That there's this
window somewhere in the back of this room .... I've had
it several times. Somewhere in the back of the big bay
it looks out on turf .. like in a ground level and that
out in the back I can see wire ... it looks to me ... nobody
cared for .. like a place as opposed to just some dump.
But in the background I got a feeling of ...... ah .... I
am outside. I got wire. ... I got a hurricane wire.
Maybe 10 feet, I got 10 or better feet.
I got the. . a ..
I got some sort of a. . OK .. I got double angle .. double
angles at the top Like a snakes tongue. I got ... of each
post .. I got a ... I got a shot at what I think is a guard
tower in a corner, but it's a. . elevated stand. It's more
... it's more functional than display tower.
PAUSE
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#31
Uh, Let me take a break. The last shot was a dish.
#14
OK. Let's draw now.
ADMINISTRATIVE NOTE:
The narrative portion of this session wherein
the viewer drew his impressions was recorded but
has not been included in this transcript because
it provided no additional information and is of
little analytical value. A cassette tape of the
entire session is stored at the INSCOM GRILL FLAME
Project Office.
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION C 71B
#14
This will be a remote viewing session (edited for
security) .
PAUSE
SG1A
It's now time to focus on our target. I want you
to now focus on our target today
Describe
the surroundings and his activities at this moment in
detail.
PAUSE
TAPE
LIANE.
Uh ... why don't you kill the tape and when I start ..
turn it on again ... I .... a little more time here. . that'll
save waste.
#14
OK.
PAUSE
#31
Uh ... got a .. series of .. a .. feel like I'm outside
...
feel like I'm on a .. I see a guy in dark .. uh .. dark coat
standing on a .. sidewalk and behind him is a series of
funny it's a. . like I'm on a slide hill .. a series of
90 degrees angle .. they're angles .. a shop side by side
by side, like building blocks off set, down this hill
.. again he's ... he seems to be in a dark cloth fall coat.
No gloves (cough) ; .. uh. . coats about knee length.
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Seems to be waiting for something, like transportation.
Fleeting .. like raising his arm to hail something.
PAUSE
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#31
I have a feeling that just a little bit of traffic on
side walk ... what I think is .. seems to be a lot of lights,
... up the street and not so much .... I don't feel the
same ... standing .. a little ways up the street feeling that
a. . place is .. and there are a lot of outdoor lights ....
.... it's more lighted down there ... more activity
people crossing the street.
(traffic noise in the background of tape)
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#31
... work on him.
Seems I can't get into the .. his head
a little better
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#31
I have .. a .. I .. a .. just have him smoking and .. a ..
walking up a .. the street towards business or whatever
along the sidewalk in front of lighted shops. He's not
looking in ... he's not .. strolling .. walking and thinking
and smoking
#14
Tell me what he's thinking.
PAUSE
(No response to this question.)
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#31
Uh .. I don't know. I tried.
SG1A
#14
Alright.
Just focus your. . focus again on
and get back with him in his walk.
PAUSE
#14
Do you still have the target on the observation?
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#31
Yes.
I had a.
.it's.
. it's hard to trail if you
just making (not audible) for interest sake.
I have
this feeling he's ..... Podgordny museum at Minsk and
church .. that's only
.. before that .... again
you don't know ... making something. I had a shot of
him getting into a black car, automobile.
SG1A
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#14
I am going to move you sideways in time again.
I want you to describe
of one month ago, last month.
surroundings as
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#31
Uh ..... uh .. oh no! (mumbling) .. I have a feeling I was
looking over a coastal area over .. a .. some kind of
water. I'm making a .. slight however ... (not audible)
then I had the feeling of a. . a. . revolving, round. . uh ..
circle.
I had the feeling of a. . revolving post
sticking out on the top of some square, metal
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#31
... feeling of something .. like something temporary ..
like moveable and then I had the feeling of marching
troops in rank in .. uh .. um .. in rank .. like 10 or 15
abreast marching by in martial mode with dark brown/
green uniform. Uh .. out of no where I got the coastal
area, I got the feeling I was looking at another city,
at a city but different than this one .. than .. a ..
I had the feeling that .. I had a real .. I had a feeling
of a .. of looking down on a .. to the right .. to the right
of the indentation of the coastal area .. where the thing
is .. I had the feeling .. a big thing .. shaped like a "P"
about that .. like I was looking down on a massive road
or street, or something that was shaped like a "P", but
the funny thing about it was it had a double .. a .. leg
... it had a double leg on the "P"
PAUSE
#14
Tell me more about the city.
PAUSE
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#31
Warm; tree lined streets; hills ... different
different hills ..... good
shot .... uh .. red domes ... uh ..
funny red tile ... uh .. dome's almost, like on a church.
PAUSE
#14
Tell me about the people in this city.
PAUSE
#31
I got a piazza with arches
. like. . funny architecture ..
like Spanish .. lot of tiles ..
... let me work on the
people ...... got to find somebody
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... I .. two ... three images come to mind .. old ladies
dressed in black. Latin looking men ... short sleeved
shirts .. outside shirts (not audible) ... I don't have
any feelings of (not audible) .. dusty dust ... it's all
tropical .... structure generally low .. low. but I have
weirdest .. place that .. where I am is .. uh .. like in a
residential area .. it's not the downtown feeling ....
not big buildings all over like before .... more outskirts
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.. bigger buildings farther away. I have a feeling
like I'm ... I'm down below from where I started ...
my first feelings ... I had to make it go someplace else.
Even though I went someplace else ... I'm not ... I didn't
start out in the downtown anyway .. . 30 days. .. uh ...
PAUSE
#31
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That's funny, I had a .. I had a moving vehicle, like
heavy weapons down a deserted road out in the boonies.
Tropical foilage on each side of the road. Like a
tactical move. There's a ... let me get back up on the
hill.
#14
Tell me more about the vehicle.
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#31
I said like a heavy weapons, but the more I looked
at it, as it went by, it was more like a, a road
march of .. uh .. lories and heavy box-like trucks.
Uh ... with stuff inside. I don't ... they were scout (phonetic)
cars and ... umm also called .. I don't get a feeling of
like combat equipment, but more combat support.
I
have no idea where it is. Seems to be totally different
place. Uh ... oh ... those guys are .. uh .. uh, I want to
say those guys are soldiers; they are not anything else.
#14
Ok. We've been at it for quite some time. Do you
want to draw now?
#31
I want to get back on that hill.
Ok.
#14
#31
If I can for one last ...... it overlooks .... it's not
a big hill and it seems to have a bunch of trees,
houses, like buildings of state. Older places up
there, but from it you can see ... water, overlooks the
water, and then you can about 24 miles of ... you can
see the downtown. What would be the business area.
Bigger buildings down there. A commercial feeling.
More jammed packed. OH! GOD (individual stretching)
#14
Stretch out a little bit.
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Are you ready?
#31
Yeah.
#14
That's what I call good timing with the tape.
(Tape turned over)
#31
This is weird. Like I said before, it's like being
on a shopping trip. What do you want now?
I don't
know. What do you want now? Ha .... Ha ..
Ok.
Start at the beginning I guess.
That's about
the best place to start, usually.
SG1A
This is what I was talking about.
These 90 degree
angles. Like shops set one behind the other, or
something.
#14
And, this is, of course, targeting on
in the present.
#31
Yeah.
this was real time. Ok. This is a street side
scene.
A series of ... like .. uh .. zigzag ... how do I
describe it ... like shops set one in from the other
along the line ... street side scene ... glass up top
... brick bordering on the bottom, and sidewalk here,
and a curb.
Had the feeling that there was, you know,
automobile ..... parked along the side .. type situation
along ... that's peculiar. The impression I had of
automobile was that it was parked the wrong way on
the street. That's, that's something I remember.
I
didn't say it, but it's something I remember. Uh ..
and I had the feeling that old
whatever his
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name is, was standing here .. uh .. on street side, street
side corner here. Wish I was a better artist.
I
had a feeling he had a hat on of some kind ... in a dark
type coat, ok, and that he put his hand up. No, put
his right hand up, ok. Man on sidewalk looking at
street. Raised right hand as though to hail a cab or
something, ok. But then, I had him ... well ... the next
I had though was instead of anything like him getting
into a lousy car or anything like that, I had 'em,
I was, I was like looking at him from behind, and he
was walking down the street. Walking this way, ok.
#14
Please make little foot prints.
#31
That's what I'm doing. Ha, ha, ha, ha
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Notice they get farther apart the farther away he
goes. Ha ... ha, ha, ha. ha. And, he walks down the
street, ok. The next thing, all right then, ....
grooving on that shot ... really neat. I thought, maybe
he'd hop into a pawn place or something.
You know.
#14
You were hoping.
#31
Hoping, yeah. Anyway, ok, all right. There's dark
shapes along here of an occasional automobile, right.
It seemed like an occasional vehicle, et cetera. I
had him in the foreground walking along, sort of like
one hand in his pocket and the other hand ... cigarette.
That needs to go down farther there 'cause he's got
his trench coat on, whatever it is .. ok .. and here's
.. uh. . and he's walking down the street, ok. Now,
it's dark. My feeling is this gloomy, let me write
this, gloomy dusky was my feeling. Here we are
gloomy, dusky, ok, and shops along the wall ... along
the side, here. And .. uh .. down here on the old horizon
is bright lights, ok. I can't draw it. You know what
I'm talking about. Like you're looking ... I was trying
to explain it. It was like I was walking out of a,
an unbusiness, an unfrequented place, down the street
into a more frequented place that was still ... had some
shops open and the lights were still on, and everything.
Ok. That's about the only thing I could
Activity, business, bright lights shining out, ok, and
it's dark all around here. Ok. So I boogied on along
with him for awhile. Let me just write in walking alone
up dark street toward lights, smoking right hand .. uh ..
what was, ok, this is.
#14
Ok. Are you aware of anything like that?
#3]
No.
I recognized the town's name Kerchin, (phonetic)
Kursk and Minsk, but podgorney (phonetic) museum, I
have no idea what it is.
#14
Ok. I was just wondering if maybe there was such a
museum and such town. I don't know either.
#31
I have no idea.
.. never ..... just, you know ..... out
of nothing.
#14
Ok. And that was about the time I had you move
sideways.
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#31
Ok. That's 2.
Then I had ..... well I had this feeling he got into a
car finally. That's nothing, ok . Now, going to 3 ...
ok. That's what I was trying to write. Trying to
explain rather. This is ..... water, and this is harbor,
maybe, ok, and this is hill, ok, and this is like .. uh ..
taller buildings, and here is like outline city districts.
All right. Now, this was a trop ..... tropical and warm.
Totally different place. This is minus 30 days, right.
#14
Right.
#31
RT minus 30 days. Real time. Umm
#14
Then you described revolving round circle.
#31
Ok. I felt what he had to do in this place was done
up here, ok. Whatever. .... and there's buildings.
you know ...... it's too ..... it's impossible to draw
everything.
I had the feeling there were buildings
in here. These were .... it's on a hill.
these were like buildings on a hill. Now, I'll say
it right now. The thing that strikes me as being
peculiar about this is that ..... uh .... god, I might be
totally off .... I may, may be totally off-base on this,
on this thing here, but .. uh .. because of the nature of
my work in the other place, I pegged this feeling and
impression as being Havana, Cuba, ok.
#14
What gives you that impression?
#31
Well, it was this fleeting out of nowhere. This P,
this double P thing on top of this hill, which came out
of nowhere. I was just sitting there working along
trying to figure out 30 days ago. Just grooving on
what was going to come, and the first thing I was doing
was zooming down on this. That is a, that is a feature
from other research I just happen to have done as a
result of my involvement with Latin America, of. . uh ..
of a. . uh .. suspected location of some of the Soviet. . uh ..
command and control elements in the Havana area. Ok.
so I'll just say that right now for the record.
#14
All right.
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"Cause I've been working with another detachment on
providing them OP data and maps and all the rest of
that stuff. So I'll say that for the record.
#14
Ok. Getting back to the revolving round circle. . uh ..
and a revolving pole
...
#31
Yeah.
I'll get that.
Ok. ok ... all I can do is just put it on top of a box.
I don't know if it's a movable: box or if it's something
that's off-loaded, or something that is stationary as
it is, but has to be moved with a considerable effort,
or what. It was just a quick impression.
I had a feeling
that the whole thing turned. Ok. That's that .... 4.
And I had 5. I had the classic, I had the classic
cartoon of troops marching about 15 abreast, ok.
#14
You don't have to draw that if you don't want to.
#31
I'll draw one rank, ha, ha, ha. I'll narrow it down
to its essentials, ok. Troops marching in ranks. . uh ..
deep brown green, deep dark brown green uniforms .. uh ..
10 to 15, what did I say, 10 to 15 abreast, rank on
rank, pomp and circumstance, pass in review was the
feeling, all right. That's all, that's without beating
myself to death. That's enough, I guess.
Ok.
Somewhere around there, I had the feelings like ....
here were the buildings .... uh ..... I'll draw you this ....
funny church thing, ok. Here was the harbor. Over here
is this hill ... somewhere in this mass .... water on the
horizon, right .... downtown ... here's the hill ... somewhere
in this mass is this funny ... funnelied shaped .....
like cathedral .. oops ... ok ... it's got 3 spot ... I had the
feeling there were like 2, well you can see 'em here,
2 things sticking out the side that had spires on 'em,
you know, and it confused the heck out of me, because
I didn't know if we were talk .... if they were ... I don't
know.
They could be minarets. They could be .. . whatever.
uh ... thing about 'em is that they are orange ... don't
spell orange with a g. o-r-a-n-g-e, orange -red tile ...
church or cathedral, ok. The other impression I had.
Uh ... that was 6 there for this thing.
And, again, this item is only being drawn, but it's
drawn amongst tree-lined streets. It should be there's
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tree-lined streets, low buildings all around,
residential area ... some bigger buildings, but nothing
like this section, was what I was trying to get across
is that the massive section is somewhere else .....
where I was drifting.
Ok. uh ... how do I draw this in perspective again. Ok.
Here ..... ok, that's in the background, and it's shady ...
and you can still see it in there ..... like an open
plaza feeling with .. uh ... this is a walkway back here,
but there's these arches right, and it's dark because
it's covered ..... this line really shouldn't be there
. feeling of some sort of a fountain in the middle
of it .... it's all mox-nix, but it lends a flavor to
what ...... all right ....
#14
What flavor?
#31
Well, to be the arch style ... everything was either
lat .... it was very, very latin to me
#14
Then you described being out in the boonies.
#31
Yeah. Ha ... ha ... ha ... hooo-waaa .... how to see .. uh ..
how to see Cuba on five dollars a day .... ha, ha, ha ...
Ok. I had this kind of a feeling. Disappearing in
the distance ... cloud of dust and a hardy hi-ho-silver
you know ... don't want that line, not yet. .... and,
you know ... uh .. . ok, to label 'em in our equivalence.
this is like a 5 by. This is like a 2 and }, duce
and a half, and there was .. uh .. like a small little
squad jeep of some kind, and not necessarily in the
same order. It's just this boommmm ... uh ... open type
thing, for whatever worth it is. And, one impression
that I had, I was sitting there watching this thing
disappear in the sunset, and, ok, that's 7. This
will be 8.
But, over here as though it was disappearing in the
sunset with some poor sucker sitting in the back of
it, as I've done quite a bit myself, right ... here's
canvas on duce and %. .. was this guy sitting on the
side ..... ok ..... and I had ... he was ... I had the feeling
that this guy, you know, sitting in the back by the
tail-gate, as GIs everywhere want to do when they're
on the move, and this guy had a, my impression was ...
not, not .... my first impression was that this guy was
wearing a .. like a ... was not wearing combat gear. He
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was like wearing ... or fatigues even ... he was wearing
more uniform of the day gear, right .. uh .. the service
type cap instead of a field pot .. and .. uh .. round
dark khaki ... dark, deep brown, ok. That's all I can
do there ... well red ... red trimming epaulets and a cap
band, which is also, this is also the thing here.
Uh ... sketch 5. ... is this red trimming ... it's hard to
pinpoint where it is, but that was the feeling I had
for the marching situation, ok ... was that there was
flashes of red amongst the brown.
#14
Maybe very significant. I don't know if the Russian's
do it. Some countrys used to, and still do, identify
certain types of units by the piping on the uniform.
#31
Well I didn't get ..... yeah .... ok .... just the red flash
is all I had. The feeling like ... like here, in this
guy, I've drawn him very crummely but like a epaulet
I had a feeling like a epaulet might be red and the cap
strap around his hat would be red ... and .. uh .. then I
had the definite feeling that that was red, ok. This
was all in tuned with this fleeting shot of this convoyer,
or whatever it was. Couldn't tell you which one was
which or anything else, but ..... red star vehicle door
convoy of, what, I'd say, 8 to 10 vehicles.
Ok. now the
other thing is that this is. . uh. . it's almost as though
they were the only ... there was only one ..... it was
almost as though the road was so narrow that there was
only room for the convoy to go one way, but I was on
the right side. So I can't tell, you see, if there was
another side, because I was just checking this action
out as it went down the road.
Uh, I wanted to write this red trimming here arrowed to
the guy's epaulet and arrowed to the guy's hat. . band .
That's when I said I had the definite feeling that the
guy was Soviet. The guy, he ... the guy in the back of
the truck, to me, does not strike me as being an Arab
or the Cuban or Latin American of anykind or an Arab
or ... uh ... West German, or American ... or anything like
that. It struck me as being the guy was ... what I said ..
Sov .... ok.
Anything else you want to add?
#14
#31
I went back up on the hill. The only thing that I did
when I went back up on the hill was I got more data
... flesh out this other sketch 'cause .... this, I have
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no idea where these things are. 'Cause I was zipping
all over the place. That's all I got.
Guess we'll call that end of session.
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