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WEDNESDAY, OCT. 24, 1:40. THIS IS A REMOTE VIEWING EXPERIMENT
WITH PAT PRICE, DEAN BROWN AND RUSSELL TARG IN THE SHIELDED ROOM
IN BUILDING 30. THE TRAVELLERS TO REMOTE LOCATION ARE BART COX,
HAL PUTHOFF, JUDY SCHMICKLEY AND PHYLLIS COLE.
WE EXPECT THE
TRAVELLERS TO BE AT THEIR PLACE IN ABOUT 10 MINUTES.
IT'S 1:58. OUR TRAVELLERS SHOULD BE NEAR TO ARRIVING AT THE
PLACE.
OK. Why don't I start scanning by quadrant using this as a center
point.
12-3, 6-9 .....
I'll go from 12-3 first.
Seems to me right now that I'm picking
them up in the 12-3 quadrant, but I'll go on in the rest and look.
I haven't actually identified them, I just feel that they're there.
Nope, I don't get them there.
Now I'll go from 6-9. While I was looking at 6-9, it looks to
me like I'm looking at an iris, a flower of some kind. I'll come
back and identify that later. Just wanted to get it down as having
a flash of an iris flower - purplish., I'll continue to scan that
quadrant.
Nope, don't get them there.
I'll go from 9-12.
Don't get them there.
I'll go back 12-3.
Yah, I get them in that quadrant.
Now I'll see if I can locate them physically and identify the area.
I'm looking at something that looks like an arbor, trellis-work
arbor .. Seems to be cool, shaded. Doesn't seem to me that they're
out in the direct sunlight. Be more like there's lots of trees,
in an arbor area.
The arbor appears to be made of wood, possibly redwood.
They're just. .. looks like it's a dirt path, quite wide, I'd say
may 12 feet.
I can see some grass. Looks like possibly a fountain
of some kind.
Yah, I can see Bart in his red shirt and what looks like kind of a
gray paisley tie - I didn't really look at that when he was down
there. The red shirt, I did. Looks like he has on a gray paisley
tie.
It appears they're walking along quite leisurely.
Looks like there's some red brick laid into a walkway.
They don't
Seem to be on it, they just seem to pass over that.
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I get - it seems like a little ways away from them there are quite
a few people but right where they're walking it doesn't appear to
be many right in there.
This is an arbor area. Back of that arbor, back here I'd say 50
feet from that arbor to here, seems to be a lot of people in here.
They were walking along here on what looks like about a 12 foot dirt
path.
WHAT KIND OF PLACE IS THE ARBOR IN? IS IT A FIELD OUT IN THE OPEN?
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NO, I want to say park, but it doesn't exactly feel like a park.
If you took a - the feeling I'm getting - it's not the specific
place - but like the Town and Country Market. That type of an
atmosphere, with quite a section of it into a little outdoor
park, but basically I'm getting a very strong feeling of flowers.
Like the first one I saw was an iris.
TELL ME ABOUT THE TOWN AND COUNTRY ASPECT.
IN WHAT WAY DOES IT
REMIND YOU OF TOWN AND COUNTRY.
The buildings, not right where they're at, but very close to them
have that same kind of architecture and look. The parking lot
looks similar, grand, sweeping, not cluttered, it's more expansive
area .. You take a place like Sears Mall - it seems cluttered.
This seems more leisurely paced.
People are moving about slower - there's not the hustle and bustle
- more or less meandering.
TOWN AND COUNTRY MEANS TO ME A COVERED WALKWAY.
Yah, the back of them it seems to be - where they are seems to be
a very large arbor like vines growing over it and things, and there
possibly - I haven't looked in there yet to see if there's any
displays like pottery and things - I get the feeling that there
is right close to it.
ALSO,, OUTDOORS?
. Yah,, it seems like fairly high shade trees - kinda bordering. The
center part doesn't seem to have it - this part in here. The trees
seem to be way up in here along like this over here. This seems
to be shaded in here, but it's sunny out here.
I just saw something that looked like a windmill - not a farm type
windmill - a Dutch-type windmill. It's smaller - it's not a huge
thing, but I'm getting a definite feeling that it's like a windmill.
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The area in there feels damp - not wet - they're not walking in
water, but it's very moist.
The temperature in there ... it's secluded.
Feels very comfortable.
A little on the shady side.
WHAT DO YOU FIND AS THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PLACE THEY'RE AT?
Outside of this little park-like affair that they seem to be
in, there's a street.
One side seems to be a kind of a residential ...
the other seems to be a little bit more heavily travelled.
It would be like a heavy secondary road rather than primary.
The
other one seems to be like a residential area.
Let me pick up a little bit more.
I can see one verylarge oak tree - exceptionally large.
Right now Bart is trying to point something out that is basically
the significance of the whole place. It's like that key thing,
well, if you'd have mentioned a salt pile I'd have blown my lid.
Well, this has a significance that's just about comparable to that.
I'm trying to pick up exactly what the hell it is. I'm screening
it out.
Thing that just flashed in was kind of like a stadium structure -
like looking down into a stadium.
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Just when I did that I - I'll have to reorient to make sure I'm
looking in the same area now.
Seems like they're - I still get them in the same quadrant I had
them in originally.
Seems like some decorative brick walls.
THE QUADRANT YOU HAD THEM IN IS BASICALLY THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT?
Yah, I got them out about this far - it's not far away - I'd say
in this direction over here about - feels like a mile to a mile
and a half. They don't feel as far away, and I'm not looking at
the time continuum. They actually don't feel as far away. I'd
say that it is about - not half the distance they were to the
marina, and it seems to be on a line just about in that direction
but just a hair more - rather than a direct line from here to the
marina - they seem to be just slightly more to the left of that
line ..
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I was looking back to where he had the car parked and it seems like
it's on asphalt, then a curb in front, and then it's like a dirt
walkway and then a sidewalk. But I can see eucalyptus buds on the
ground and some branches of eucalyptus there.
One of the most dominant things to me in the way of unusualness is
the size of the oak tree that I'm looking at. Looks like an
arboretum, or I get the definite feeling of flowers.
Almost get the feeling like it's commercial flowers.
In fact, the most predominant feeling that I'm getting right now
is flowers.
Don't know why iris particularly.
There's something about the windmill that I was going to look at.
Wasn't that what you were ....?
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Be like one you'd almost see in a miniature golfcourse ... the windmill.
Has all the construction and detail but not as large - it's
fairly small. Seems to be made out of dark redwood and it's
kind of aged.
I'm going to try to look more directly to them. Let's see, there's
Bart and Hal, and behind Bart is Judy and behind Hal is Phyllis,
kinda staggered there.
Looks like a possible small pool of water - like a garden pond.
Looks like a little bridge.
I was trying to get the feeling of what type of an area it was.
Let me elevate a bit. I'm looking at much too small an area.
There's some greater significance there that I feel I'm definitely
not looking at - let's jack up a bit. .. . maybe 500 feet.
I see a lot of trees.
I see Judy's red hair and her brown eyes and her flashing teeth -
she has beautiful teeth.
(Aw, shucks - ed. ) Hadn't looked at
them before.
Phyllis and her are talking about something and Hal and Bart are
talking about something and he's pointing at something and it
seems to me that he's pointing over to what I'd call a windmill
or something that looks like a windmill.
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The water I see looks more like a pool or a pond than it does -
you know, it's not.big like a lake - not very large, but it looks
like a definite pool.
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Right where they're at I don't hear too much traffic noise - it
seems to be fairly quiet.
Looks like a little wooden walkway.
Feels a little early, but it kinda seems like they're retracing
their steps heading back toward the car, but they're still moving
quite leisurely.
IF YOU LOOK DOWN ON THE PLACE FROM ABOVE, CAN YOU GET ANY FEELING
FOR THE - IS THERE ANY OVERALL LAYOUT OR PLAN?
When I went up I could see trees and stuff, and I kind of got the
feeling of like in a corner of a golf course, you know - where
there would be a lot of trees overhanging the green and some
things in there - that seemed to be out of context, but when I
elevated, that's what I got. It kind of looked like an overlap
to me, so I didn't talk about it, but I will.
When I elevated it kind of felt like it was right over the corner
of a golf course of some kind, with a street running down one
side, and they're fairly close to that.
In fact, the bricked area that I looked at or like a patio thing
kinda looks like a walkway. Seems like there's small building -
small meaning not tall - looks like a single story building.
Looks like it has a flat roof - slightly pitched. Looks like
4x4 poles supporting it - has a canopy out over it. They're
painted white, place looks like very possible light yellow or
cream color.
They're walking not too far from that.
Still seems to me that
they're on a dirt pathway.
In the area that they're in now I get flowers again - where before
they kinda fell out of the flowers.
Looks like maybe 80-100 yards from where they are - looks like
2 guys on a motor scooter.
They can see them.
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IS THE INTEREST TO THIS PLACE?
WHAT'S SPECIAL
ABOUT THIS PLACE?
It seems to be a kind of a recreational, relaxed ... not energetic -
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That would be the general character of it.
Two aspects - one is aesthetics and the other is a kind of a mild
recreational area.
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There seem to be some unique features - I don't have it totally
into context as yet. There's a number of things that I've rejected
- looked at and rejected saying.
First, I got the impression that it was kind of like a miniature
golf course - I rejected that. Merely from saying it - I didn't
reject the principle - I just rejected saying it.
Then I kind of got the idea of a standard golf course - I also
rejected that on the same principle, so I'm just trying to describe
the terrain.
Seems expansive - doesn't seem cluttered.
Just got a flash of something that reminded me of the gyroscope -
gimbals on the gyroscope.
Drinking fountain - looks like it's made out of kinda like field
stone built up into a fountain ... bowl.
I'm going to elevate again and go through a search quadrant again.
I still get them in that general location, so that seems to set
all right.
Distance - maybe a mile, mile and a half.
Doesn't seem much farther
- seems fairly close.
The area has an awful lot of grass, lot of trees - looks like
dirt walkways, well trimmed. I can see the arbor, and the arbor
could be a place to sit and be out of the direct sun.
May be a few little tables and benches and chairs in there.
That outlooks over quite a grassy area - there are quite a few trees.
I see basically an oak.
Right after they got out of the car I could see some eucalyptus
buds and branches on the ground, and it seemed like the trees
were there.
Looked like they got out of the car, stepped upon a curb, dirt
parkway,, a sidewalk, and then they went into this area.
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I get the feeling this windmill type thing - that all seems fairly
real,
The feeling is still that it's relaxing and has some recreational
aspects - I just haven't put it totally together as to giving it
a name.
Right now i get a very strong impression of flowers again.
It seems like right now they're back to right where I originally
spotted them only they're going in the opposite direction - like
they're moving toward the direction they originally went.
While they were there they walked on several pathways - walked out
quite a ways, then swung over and come over and worked around
and looked at ....
One peculiar thing I might note - so far I haven't sensed, seen
nor heard an airplane.
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Cars seem quite distant - outside of that little motor scooter
affair with the two guys on it. That's about the only vehicular
traffic I've seen - except out in the parking lot.
It seems like to me that they've got most of their attention
off what they were looking at and they've got their attention
more on the car now.
I want to look and find out what the significant thing was that
Bart was talking about.
There's something quite unusual there and I ....
Damned if I can
pick it up.
WAS HAL DOING ANYTHING BESIDES WALKING ALONG - WAS THERE ANY
ACTIVITY FOR HAL TO DO?
Most of the time I was looking at Hal he was kind of listening
to Bart and Bart was pointing out a number of things.
Part of the time Bart was walking with Hal; part of the time he
was back by Judy.
When I first saw them, it was Bart in the front on the left side,
Hal was on his right, Judy was slightly behind - almost between
Bart and Hal but behind, and Phyllis to her right.
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When they were coming back, they just about reversed.
Bart would
be in front. When they were coming back, it looked like Bart was
in front with Phyllis, and Judy was walking more behind Bart and
Hal on her right when they were coming back out of there.
They're actually at the car.
2: 30. SHALL WE GO DOWNSTAIRS AND SEE HOW THEY'RE DOING?
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